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Plausibly Concerning Something Other Than Trump v. Clinton Biden Harris
Contributions for the week of September 30, 2024
Plausibly Concerning Something Other Than Trump v. Clinton Biden Harris
Contributions for the week of October 7, 2024
Plausibly Concerning Something Other Than Trump v. Clinton Biden Harris
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That can't be fixed. There is literally no way mechanically to prevent people from treating the AAQC report as a super-upvote. You would have to address it at a cultural level, but that would also be impossible without removing a big chunk of the people who come here in the first place.
That's a drop in the water though. This place hasn't been healthy for a long time, and arguably wasn't even at its conception. Then again, one community's illness is another community's peak condition, so maybe I'm wrong and this place is good precisely for why I think it's ill.
Maybe? It's not like you can tell if you get
blocked andreported outside of what comes back every month, and most of the AAQCs tend to have high positive scores anyway. There's only one exception this month with [currently] a score of 0, and it is definitely not something that's ideologically aligned with most of its replies given all the others are [organically] pushing +20 - which then raises the question as to who nominated it (I'm pretty sure you can't nominate yourself).I think a lot of the problem is that, for the moment, [the average poster] is in fact correct about their political outgroup being in the wrong/their desired self-enrichment is more destructive than their political ingroup- that's a consequence of having a community made up of people who get objectively right answers more often than not. The anti-boo-outgroup[ers] rule exists partially to protect the members of the outgroup that are not holding those beliefs just to be selfish, after all (outside of "the selfish answer and the right answer are the same picture", which brings the people who can't get power from being correct into inherent conflict with people that are more correct than average). And it's inherently harder to defend those beliefs, because there's never any constructive plan to address the failures other than double down, because having power means you don't need to think about constructive plans. But this is the just the thesis of "right is the new left".
And a second-order effect of this tension is that it naturally causes flame-outs after a while, especially among people whose political sympathies lie more with the collective outgroup, because that's the problem when you apply 'anti-wrong-answer, not anti-wrong-person' over a collective of people whose replies might be permissible to the forum at large, but not be beneficial towards that goal. And that line is a lie anyway because a wrong answer from a person actually does give you valuable information about them ['blameless culture' management styles, and 'all men are equal', also suffer from this tension], so being wrong about something puts you in a position of weakness, and people instinctively hate feeling weak, because weakness is death.
Then, the only thing that will prevent you from quitting a competition you're losing [and the disgust reaction/emotion is partially designed to reinforce your body's definition of 'losing'] is a devotion to some other goal. It's the emotional equivalent to seeing a 100 dollar bill on the street [in the economist's sense], but it's got a bunch of dogshit all over it and people are watching you; are you going to pick the bill up anyway, or is the dogshit going to 'win' and prevent you from doing so? And then, what are you going to say about the dirty money when others ask you about it- you're going to say that investigating it would have given the dogshit power, because you had to overcome it to get that money.
After a while, people get devotion fatigue and quit (loudly, quietly, doesn't matter). This place grows or dies based on the rate of old contributors are flaming out- growing if new contributors are 'joining' faster than the old ones are quitting, and dying if the reverse is true. (Which is why one of the suggestions is 'make it harder for them to flame out by slackening the rules', and balancing to what extent that would be destroying the community's goals to preserve the community itself.)
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It's an interesting question. It's not exactly healthy, in that it's not what I'd want to see in a community like this, but I think it's as good as it's going to get, given the circumstances. This may all be projection, but a part of the issue seems to be us accumulating cynicism as we grow older - I don't know how much I can play "steelman the opponent" post- gamergate, BLM, metoo, BLM2, COVID, and "WPATH to hell" - but more importantly I think it's less of a local culture problem, than a global culture problem. The culture of discourse that the rat-sphere sprang from is dead and buried. Personally I think it's because discourse is an existential threat to our ruling regime, and so people need to retreat to echo-chambers just to maintain society. From there, it's not exactly surprising that this place has become rather skewed in one direction, but the depressing thing is it's still better than the majority of alternatives.
This is a social club for people who largely share at least a few political beliefs. I think there’s still a lot of spirited debate and disagreement, though.
I agree, but the political lean has it's issues. For example I'm a big fan of the "post something wrong and wait until someone smugly corrects you" method of truth seeking, and it can't work if your wrongposting feeds into the bias of the community.
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