@FiveHourMarathon's banner p

FiveHourMarathon

Wawa Nationalist

17 followers   follows 6 users  
joined 2022 September 04 22:02:26 UTC

And every gimmick hungry yob

Digging gold from rock n roll

Grabs the mic to tell us

he'll die before he's sold

But I believe in this

And it's been tested by research

He who fucks nuns

Will later join the church


				
User ID: 195


				
				
				

			

		

	














	


		


			



	

		

			

			

				

					

						

							
						

						

							
							

								
FiveHourMarathon


								

								

								
								
								

								
							
					
 
				


				
Wawa Nationalist

				
				
				

				

					17 followers  

					follows 6 users  

					joined 2022 September 04 22:02:26 UTC
				


				
					

					
And every gimmick hungry yob


Digging gold from rock n roll


Grabs the mic to tell us


he'll die before he's sold


But I believe in this


And it's been tested by research


He who fucks nuns


Will later join the church



				

				

				

				

				

					

					

					
					
					

					
User ID: 195


					
					
					
				

			


					

						
					



		

	

 











			
			

			
			

			




	


		

			
‎

			

				
				

					Hour
					Day
					Week
					Month
					Year
					
				

			


			
‎

			

	
	

	 Hot Bump Top Bottom Old Controversial Comments
	



		

	






	

		
		

		
		
	

	

  







		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of March 30, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


but I've never heard it directed at anything other than the US and Israel.




Have you ever interacted with a Persian?


From Grok:




the Persian phrase “marg bar” (مرگ بر, literally “death to”) is famously used in political chants like “marg bar Amrika” (Death to America) or “marg bar Isra’il” (Death to Israel), but it (and related death idioms) also pops up in more casual, everyday Iranian speech for frustration with mundane things.






It’s not always a literal call for death—it’s often idiomatic, like an exaggerated “damn [this thing]” or “down with [annoyance]” for stuff you can’t control or that irritates you in daily life. Travel writer Rick Steves captured this perfectly during a trip to Tehran: his taxi driver, stuck in horrible traffic, exclaimed “Death to traffic!” (in English) and explained that Iranians say this about uncontrollable frustrations, comparing it to casually saying “damn those teenagers.” Steves noted the driver wasn’t advocating violence against drivers—just venting about gridlock the same way people rant about everyday hassles.






Another clear non-political (or at least prosaic) example is “marg bar sibzamini” (“Death to potatoes!”). During the 2009 Iranian presidential election campaign, opponents of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad chanted this at rallies in places like Yasouj and Isfahan. It mocked his government’s potato distribution (seen as a gimmicky handout or vote-buying tactic amid economic issues). Protesters turned a staple food into a slogan of everyday dissatisfaction: “We don’t want potato government!” It was humorous and pointed at a mundane economic gripe rather than grand ideology.






Broader Persian “death”-related expressions are super common in quotidian contexts for exaggeration, annoyance, exhaustion, or minor irritations (not protests). These show how death metaphors are woven into casual talk:






Che margeshe? (“What’s his death?”) → Used for objects or people acting up, like “In mâshin che margeshe?” (“What’s wrong with this car?”) when it won’t start.63






Mordim tâ… (“We died until…”) → For everyday ordeals, e.g., “Mordim tâ residim!” (“We died until we arrived!”) in bad traffic or after a long, draining commute.63
Marg! (“Death!”) or Boro bemir! (“Go die!”) → Casual “Shut up!” or “Get lost!” among friends, depending on tone (joking vs. serious).63






Khabare margesh! (“The news of his/her death!”) → Muttered under your breath about something/someone annoying, like a frustrating politician or a bad driver.63
These aren’t rare or invented—they’re documented by Iranian-Americans, travelers, linguists, and Iranians themselves as normal ways to blow off steam about traffic, broken stuff, exhaustion, or petty annoyances. The political versions get all the media attention because they’re chanted at rallies, but the structure lends itself to everyday venting in Iran, much like how English speakers might say “screw this traffic” or “kill me now” hyperbolically. Context and tone make it clear it’s rarely literal.




Either way, I don't think it's about translating it as harmless, just making the Iranians seem less poetic and serious. It's a problem with Persian translations in general, hence the Twitter memes about how every middlebrow Iranian bureaucrat had a PhD thesis on Quranic Hegelian dialectics in assymetric deterrence compared to Trump's boomer caps lock and Hegseths group chat edginess. If we translated more idiomatically, we'd see them as losers, the way most Persians do.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of March 30, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I absolutely agree, but again, Russia's hypothetical goal here isn't to get enough material into Iran to prop up Iran's conventional defenses, or to allow Iran to resist the whole US air force, or enough missiles to level Tel Aviv and Riyadh. Iran doesn't even need enough missiles to sink every ship coming through the Strait of Hormuz. They just need to continue firing enough that they can credibly threaten traffic, such that insurers and ship owners still won't risk it, which requires a fairly minimal quantity of munitions. Hell, even if they get down to the point where escort missions are practical, as long as there is still enough fire coming from shore that escorts are necessary, that will still massively throttle traffic compared to pre-war numbers, because it's impossible for destroyer escorts to escort the number of ships that transited on a typical day before the war.


The longer the oil shortage goes down, the greater the urge in the West to de-sanction Russian crude and accept Russia back into the community of nations in order to get access to that oil.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of March 30, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


I highly doubt this will happen.




I mean me too but I do think it entered the head of the average Democratic senator that he didn't want to be on the wrong side of this, especially when people are holding up Venezuela as some kind of massive success story.




Who could possibly defend monsters that would commit such atrocities?




It's different when we do it. Hell, even just Iran causing mass military casualties will qualify. Say, by sinking an aircraft carrier, or destroying a landing craft full of marines on live video feed. Enough flag draped coffins will lead to calls for revenge and redoubling, "finish the job so my child didn't die in vain" as Pete Hegseth claims a parent told him but the parents that could be reached for comment deny.


Congresscritters are cowards with their fingers in the wind, not principled anti-war activists.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of March 30, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
The opposite, I'm saying the anti-woke coalition is a mixed-marriage between people who think that wokeness is wrong because the theory is bad, and people who think the theory is good it should just be applied to a different group. The former are horrified by the latter, the latter think the former are moral mutants and cowards.


Take as our basic woke concept "if you criticize the actions of BlackTM Folx, it's because you are racist and bad. Any bad outcome for BlackTM Folx is due to Systemic Racism, even if the people in power are not and would not be racist. Policies can explicitly help BlackTM Folx, but if they even implicitly hurt BlackTM Folx, then they are racist and bad."


There's a large portion of people who disagree with that concept! But they don't all disagree for the same reasons.


Some people disagree with the process. It's stupid and reductive to attribute everything to an -ism, any -ism. Identitarianism harms the group you're trying to help by stifling their drive for success, removing their internal locus of control, leading them to attribute all their failures to nebulous "haters." Every group, and every member of that group, can do bad things and be bad people, no matter how much Oppression the group may have faced before. Affirmative Action is bad because it undermines meritocracy, etc.


Other people disagree with the targets, but love the process and want to use the same process but for other groups. BlackTM Folx fail because of their bad genes or bad culture, but any criticism of Jews should be met with thought terminating screeches of ANTISEMITISM. Affirmative Action was bad when it was targeted at BlackTM Folx, but it should be targeted at white Christian Conservatives, who are the real oppressed. Etc.


Both very divergent ideologies are labeled as "anti-woke" and travel under the label, but they're diametrically opposed. One group wants free speech on campus even if the speech is offensive; the other thought it was bad for kids to be hounded for saying nigger in an instagram post but don't mind kids being hounded for saying "From the River to the Sea!" at a protest. One group thinks tracking down a twitter commenter at their job and reporting them to HR for making a joke about faggots is bad because it threatens free speech, the other group thinks that it's bad because sodomites are sinful, but are happy to track down cashiers who talk shit on Charlie Kirk. This realization is uncomfortable for the three principled libertarians, and maybe for the seven zilliion witches as well.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of March 30, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
It's more that they're worried that one of two things will happen:


-- The Special Military Operation will work, and they'll look like naysayers


-- Iran will do something so horrible that you don't want to look like you were defending them


I mean if the IRGC sets off a dirty bomb in Tel Aviv, that actually makes the war a worse idea than when it was started, but it makes anything that sounds like sympathy for Iran look bad.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of March 30, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Many have already pointed out that the biggest beneficiary of the war so far is Russia where both oil prices are seeing higher prices AND that their sanctions are dropped. At first glance, this should be bad news for Ukraine.




What worries me about is to what extent Russia can prop up Iranian anti-ship capabilities cheaply. It would be very much in Russia's interests to keep the strait closed as long as possible, it harms their enemies and helps Russia. Every air defense capability sent to the gulf is one not sent to Ukraine. Buying Russian oil and propping up Russia becomes the lesser evil compared to surrendering to Iran. They don't need to give the Mullahs the bomb or supply their whole war effort, just keep a trickle of drones and missiles coming in to prevent a total degradation of Iranian launch capabilities. Keep Hormuz' legs crossed, and the more both sides destroy more oil infrastructure the more the price premium Russian oil will demand for months or years afterward.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of March 30, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


No mullahs, no IRGC, no "Death to America".




A minor aside, I often wonder to what extent we should idiomatically translate "Death to X" as "Fuck X" instead. In the same way that an American saying "Fuck Iran" should be translated to a Persian as "Death to Iran" and not "I would like to have intercourse with Iran."


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of March 30, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Sometimes it feels like this forum is still stuck in 2020. Woke is over.




The anti-woke have discovered that half of them hated the process of wokeness, and the other half hated the way the process was targeted.  On this forum this mostly takes the form of disputes around the Hebrews, elsewhere it revolves around Charlie Kirk or foreign wars.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of March 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


The US has air superiority.




I think it's really telling that the US has achieved air superiority over Iran instantly, while Russia has as of yet never achieved that level of superiority over Ukraine.




I believe the US certainly has the capability to do it, though.




It's probably not impossible, I'm just saying that when considering scale redundancies and protection need to be included in that calculus.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of March 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


they're one bad fall or headkick away from brain damage or[...]






I have been insanely blessed to have been doing it as long as I have without being sidelined by a serious injury




I love the result of this typo being the trailing off "I've never suffered brain damage or...anyway..."




I have "let" guys with less experience than me win simply to avoid a situation where one of us would probably get hurt, or to not escalate the intensity to unsafe levels. Most of the time they simply don't have the knowledge to realize how easily they can get hurt. On rarer occasions they lack the self control to rein it in where needed.




So much of it comes down to pride, and lack of communication which is mostly downstream from pride. When I get hurt, it's always ego standing in the way of just saying "Yeah I can't do that" or "Yeah I'm just going to tap here, not from a sub but because my leg is in a weird spot." The problem is removing ego from losing, while still drawing motivation from winning.




Likewise, the worst injuries I've doled out are broken noses. I felt HORRIBLE about that in both cases, but in the grand scheme those are easily recoverable.




I know you're far deeper into it than I am, and it's a different ruleset, but for me my BJJ started to get a lot better when I realized that I didn't want to hurt my partner, and just removed all the moves I deem "too dangerous" or "rude" from my repertoire. I don't do heel hooks, I don't do throat posts, I don't do neck cranks, I don't do anything flying or rolling, I don't slam anybody. I stick to slow, even, cautious application of basics. I give my opponents tons of time to tap because I have the sub sunk. This works so much better for me, because when I try something risky, I double clutch trying to make sure not to hurt my opponent, and then I lose the whole thing. I never get a heel hook because I'm trying to do it too slow. Where a straight ankle, I'm confident my opponent is going to tap to discomfort before they break anything important. I never manage to finish wrestling shots live, because I'm worrying about not slamming my opponent and then I lose it, but I can do slide-bys or arm drags all day. I never finish guillotines with a guard pull, but I can use the position to take the back.


I'm hoping to one day reach a level of confidence where I can reintegrate some of that into my game. I still drill it, but letting go of it live and focusing on things I'm confident in really improved my rolls.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of March 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I was speaking more generally regarding the whole war, but in this specific instance "losses greater than zero" very quickly complicate things and expand the operation. Unless the HEU is secretly stored closer to the border than publicly indicated, you're looking at 200+ miles of contested airspace, transporting in and out. Every piece of essential equipment or personnel you lose now needs a backup, which balloons the size of the operation, makes it harder to transport and protect, and increases the number of targets that can be hit. So you need more protection, which increases the footprint to be transported and protected, etc.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of March 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I highly doubt that the covert ops community is leaky enough to leak this plan if it were real. There are very obvious and direct consequences to the soldiers involved, I just can't believe that would happen.


That said, there's probably a lot of alpha in finding a way to track the prediction market accounts of actual soldiers, who won't be shy about cashing in. It's likely that in turn global intelligence agencies are keyed into such accounts...which then raises the possibility of using prediction markets to head fake.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of March 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
The US seems to be able to shoot down most of them. Not all of them. This is an important distinction that doesn't seem well reported anywhere.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of March 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I've been thinking a lot about this in a BJJ context, because I've been trying to decide if my habit of self-mocking is obnoxious or not. I'm generally down on myself, I'm a middle aged white belt, and a particularly ungraceful one at that. So I tend to lose more than I win when I go against people who have more experience. But every now and then I catch something, and I nearly always blurt out something self-denigrating, like "oh you let me get away with that one" or "you just got bored of sitting in my half guard so you let me sweep" or "guess you let me work a little too long" or "even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes" after I tap someone.


And this is reflexive on my part, not thought out. I don't hit a kimura trap sweep and think consciously "I should apologize;" I just blurt it out because it's obvious that I only got lucky or I only got it because he let me get it, I want him to know that I don't think I'm better than him and that he doesn't have to make a point of getting me back. And I want him to know that I respect him because I don't want him ripping a sub on me or hitting me with a twister or something.


BJJ functions that way because not only can someone hurt you, there's so much trust involved in them not hurting you. But it's far from perfect, there's always dicks who roll like they have a chip on their shoulder. I've found I can't really roll with the teenage competitive kids at this point, because it's vinegar and baking soda: I don't want to lose to a skinny young whelp, they don't want to lose to a fat old man. We both take things too far and I end up getting hurt.


There's another little guy, about my age, who constantly rips dirty subs, and I don't roll with him much, or when I do I really focus on not giving him any space to breathe and play super conservative. And if he wasn't so aggressive, I'd let a guy like that work, I'd focus on working new things and on good technique and on not using my weight advantage too much, but he's so close to snapping one of my knee ligaments that I just suffocate him and no one has any fun because I'm not gonna give him any chances.


And that's the nature of things that so many people don't consider: mutual respect isn't about who will win the fight, it's about recognizing that in the immortal words of Patrick Swayze "nobody ever won a fight." Even if you know you can win, you can still get hurt in the process (like Tyr losing his hand), or the underdog can get lucky (like Pierre shooting Dolokhov in their duel). The threat of violence is costly for all involved, even the winners.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of March 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
This is a really good way to put it. I've bemoaned the culture of dressing down before, but I never thought about it in these terms. We used to aspire to acting with respect, to courtliness; now we aspire to be so important that we can act with disrespect.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of March 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I asked DeepSeek. I think "common understanding of a term" is a pretty good use case for LLMs at the moment. You are flatly incorrect.




In the context of war, "no quarter" means that no mercy will be given—defeated enemies will be killed rather than taken prisoner.




The phrase comes from the practice of "giving quarter," which refers to a victor sparing the life of a captured enemy and holding them as a prisoner of war. To declare "no quarter" is to announce that surrender will not be accepted; the enemy is to be fought to the death.


Key aspects:


· Legal status: Granting no quarter is considered a war crime under the Geneva Conventions (specifically Article 23 of the 1907 Hague Convention and Article 40 of Additional Protocol I to the Geneva Conventions), as it violates the principle that captured combatants are entitled to humane treatment.
· Historical usage: In earlier naval warfare, a "no quarter" flag (such as a solid red flag or the Jolly Roger) signaled that the crew would fight without accepting surrender.


Though it does say




Common expression: Outside of warfare, the phrase is used metaphorically to mean showing no mercy or leniency in a competition, argument, or struggle.




Even leaving aside the moral concerns, it's a grave sin to kill a man trying to surrender, it also is the opposite of the theory that you kick the door in and the whole rotten edifice falls apart, because you're telling the Iranian troops in advance that surrender (unconditional or not) is pointless, they're going to be killed either way. It also pretty much entitles the enemy against whom you have declared No Quarter to kill your men if they are captured (see eg the Battle of the Crater).


It's something that looks tough on a BJJ rash guard but is a definitional war crime.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of March 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
So has that been meaningfully isolated F this point or are we still just guessing?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of March 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Transition is a natural extension of a rigid view of gender. "Men are strong and tough and physical and confident, I'm not any of those things, I must not be a man."


Autists are uncomfortable with grey areas that everyone understands intuitively, like that it is feminine to like makeup but that not liking makeup doesn't make one not a woman.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Friday Fun Thread for March 27, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
What are your best War podcasts? I'm looking to Monitor the Situation, but all the podcasts I normally listen to are entirely too biased, either engaging in TDS, engaging in performative anti-TDS, or Israel blaming/defending to degrees I find distasteful. I want real conflict examination.


I like war nerd and ACOUP's content but I'm not going to pay for the Patreon to get a podcast, for context. I like the modern war institute podcast, but they don't release enough.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of March 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


This meant that carrying a hypothetical gay gene wouldn't depress your fertility all that much, since the overwhelming influence of the default social script would still push you towards having the standard 1-3 children surviving into adulthood.




I've always thought this was a contradiction to a genetic explanation of homosexuality. Either it isn't nearly as bad as it's made out to be (like, you can have hetero sex you'd just maybe prefer not to), or it isn't genetic.


Because as explained by most homosexuals I've met, it's obligate, not preferential. Which, in virtually any society the majority of people had options to avoid breeding if they really didn't want to. Joining the navy and dying young, monasteries, that sort of thing. Their fertility rate would have been significantly depressed, even if not to zero, such that it would have been pretty much bred out. Or alternatively, it has been bred out over time and humans used to ALL have the gay gene.


The evidence here points towards a primarily behavioral or environmental explanation, with possible genetic confounders.


At any rate, my point is really that the "Right vs Left TFR" argument is retarded because leftist children of leftist parents aren't really necessary to liberalism. Aella's parents by all accounts raised her in an extremely right wing religious household, and she is herself. Out of church attending teenagers, 60% will not attend church at 29. Retention, not tfr, is the problem on the right.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Friday Fun Thread for March 27, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
98th overall, but only in the 60s in technical.


Interesting test. Probably my weakest question was http errors.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Friday Fun Thread for March 27, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Rogan is a stand up comedian, 1/8 professional comedians are probably Jewish.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of March 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I have a long effortpost I need to get around to about the political things you see in a 1968 Playboy that are vastly more radical than you see today.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of March 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
The West Bank is a bantustan, on the South African model.


Look at this map and tell me it's a real viable country


It's so shot through with barriers, roadblocks, checkpoints, and settlements that a Palestinian cannot travel freely within the state. There is no future in which this area can become a country, particularly as Israel intends to continue to control all imports and foreign policy.


The West Bank is a fakakta country that exists so that Palestinians can belong somewhere else.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of March 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
The modern online dating market is nothing like the concept of free love that was extremely common and important within progressive circles. Maybe on Fetlife or whatever the modern equivalent is. Read Stranger in a Strange Land some time. That's what progressives in the 60s pictured as the enlightened future.


It failed. Young couples today are, if anything, more jealous and possessive than they were in my grandmother's day.


This is what I mean by a Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy. It's circular reasoning. You don't even know what progressives aimed for but assume that it must be pretty much what we have today because progressives always get what they wanted so this must be it.