professorgerm
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professorgerm
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16hr ago
John Alexander Adams
Nice.
That I don't want to suggests I don't really believe the vote is fake.
It is unfortunate the right lacks the left's organized supply of underemployed, politically-obsessed weirdos to do things like trawl through California's voter registration databases and hunt down every homeless person in the state to question them.
professorgerm
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16hr ago
If a large fraction do resist and co-opt many natives, how else can they be deported?
Eyeballing the by-country numbers, something like 700K that people would probably want to deport. A bunch of Polish plumbers aren't generally the point of concern.
Except by a powerful and cold-hearted deportation force, which especially after the deportations are over, threatens the rest of Sweden's culture (which unrestricted immigration also threatens, but still, is there no middle solution?).
What of Sweden's culture is threatened by removing people that want to replace Swedish culture?
Approximately no Western country is interested in enforcing assimilation, which is the closest thing to a middle solution.
professorgerm
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20hr ago
The gist of it is that right now, the ECHR considers (dubiously, but so it is) refoulment to be akin torture.
Which is an excellent argument in favor of colonialism, if the ECHR actually had principles other than slow suicide.
professorgerm
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20hr ago
why?
Do you mean for Sweden or the UK?
That the UK left the EU but is still subject to the much dumber ECHR seems silly to begin with.
professorgerm
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20hr ago
many with deep ties to their community
Most of them have been there less than 12 years, and have minimal ties to the Swedish community. Loading up the emotional affect does not a good argument make.
Now, if some UK guy is talking about remigrating Windrush, you'd have a point. Sweden, not so much.
Edit:
Inevitably they will resist.
I expect less than you might think, kind of like Trump's little bit of shock and awe enforcement caused US migration to plummet. They have no ties to the land or the people, they like being showered with free money, but the times would not have to get very hard before they pull up shop and find the next host to bleed.
professorgerm
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21hr ago
The post office also has its own police. the obscure federal police are sometimes considered more competent than the famous ones, because they're obsessed with a much smaller purview.
whether or not they're from the same city, i don't know.
professorgerm
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21hr ago
they are politically active enough that they would help in an active cover up and pretend to have actually voted if questioned
"Yeah maaaan I got $10 to sign some form, leave me alone" is not exactly a Rube Goldberg coverup.
professorgerm
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21hr ago
their name and other registration information and know what city they're in
As far as I can tell having read California's laws, they do virtually no verification on any of this.
Basically they trust whoever fills it out to pinky-swear they're eligible to vote, California might check in some way that the information connects to a person that plausibly exists, but they do not have to have any connection to the address to which they are registered.
professorgerm
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21hr ago
probably less true in California than most places, and while I don't know Brenda Lee Armstrong's religious beliefs we can be quite confident she was doing fishy things with homeless voting.
professorgerm
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21hr ago
Everything I learn about the California elections process seems to be explicitly designed to allow as much fraudulent voting as possible
correct
professorgerm
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21hr ago
I don't think Yglesias personally is engaging in tactical lying about his political views.
Matt Yglesias has said, historically, that lying for political reasons is good. Article on the topic with a few extra links.
professorgerm
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1d ago
ask refugees what they want and think would be a good system
lol. The sheep asked the wolf what he wanted for dinner.
professorgerm
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1d ago
How would you get rid of immigrants if Somalia etc. won't accept them?
Send them anyways. Or depose the government of Australia and send them all there, as was traditional.
What if it's too expensive?
There's no way it's more expensive than keeping them.
What if it's dangerous for them?
As the saying goes, "remigration is the moderate solution."
not only morally
Why? What is the foundation of a secular morality that says Europe has infinite debts to the world?
If God is dead, then there is no morality in sacrificing yourself to save people that are only treating you as a paypig to be replaced.
making LLMs more diverse, further improving translation tools and incentivizing ethnic stores to include more cultural nuance
ah, starting to think someone's having a fun bit of trolling.
professorgerm
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5d ago
I've always thought of it is a certain contrarian approach to questions and attempting to think through things from first principles, which makes it more glaring when you do hit an unquestionable topic. Reading the Sequences and Scott is part of that, but not necessarily required.
Then again I only ever considered myself "rationalist-adjacent" because of the other weird sex stuff that seemed to be a cultural signifier. Rather like EA, I like rationalism as an idea, not as a movement or culture.
professorgerm
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6d ago
It's disguised in a wordy way to appear sophisticated
How dare you, my prose is meant to be playfully purple, not sophisticated!
Fine, this particular instantiation of word games was the final straw to a portion of the rationalist-adjacent crowd that had never bothered with Yud's masturbatory sequences, and proved that the considerations of the Bay Arean Social Influence were more important than anything a normal person would call rationalism or utilitarianism for the greatest good of the greatest number of people, and virtually stamped approval of utility monsters- so long as they are utility monsters approved by the Bay Arean Society.
Let's try again: redefining the categories of "man" and "woman" to be useless circular referents makes people less economically efficient and dismantles a functional society that broadly continues to find significant moral, ethical, and economic value in having some legal separation of the sexes.
Better?
professorgerm
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6d ago
In other words, you just don't like it.
If you want to be reductive, sure. I don't like murder either, or green bell peppers.
Does it make sense to put all those in one category?
Meta discussions about words and meaning have been here since the beginning of rationalism
That is what I call damning with faint praise.
professorgerm
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7d ago
Like in Iran.
"Some people prefer to be referred to as a gender different from the one they were born with."
"Oh. Okay."
Isn't the Iran solution to force gay men into reassignment surgery or execute them?
It's not exactly a San Francisco of anything-goes roles that you seem to suggest.
professorgerm
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7d ago
Solitary's always an option, but I suspect the "put men in women's prisons" folx aren't too fond of that for other reasons.
professorgerm
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7d ago
The old "recreate pillarized civilization from the ground up" retort, really?
professorgerm
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7d ago
The problem with this response has always been is that categories vary wildly between groups.
The problem is that Scott's essay was silly, socially motivated, and shot a hole through the chest of Rationalism as being anything more than postmodern word games with a nerd's coat of hobby paint.
Categories are made for man, not man for the categories.
HA! You know, I just realized that in context the phrasing highlights quite explicitly the TERF complaint that most trans discourse is inherently misogynistic. Indeed, the categories were made for man.
Can't believe it took me this long. I wish I could think Scott was being subtly Straussian but no chance of him being less than a true believer.
professorgerm
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7d ago
Did the British make a mistake in acquiescing to the post-WWII European security architecture?
Undeniably
professorgerm
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7d ago
now that trans people are everywhere (thanks to anti-trans activists)
what other causes can so thoroughly be blamed on The Enemy?
very postmodern dao, the enemy of thing is solely responsible for thing.
professorgerm
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8d ago
The innate differences of men and women have been used to excuse systematic denial of women’s rights. Same for white vs. black.
The systematic denial of differences hasn't exactly been a godsend for equality, rights, or anti-racism/anti-sexism as defined by sane people instead of sign-flipped racists/sexists. Quite the opposite!
professorgerm
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12d ago
Millwall Bushwhackers
Huh, fun to have context on why Bernard chooses Millwall supporters to punch him out on Black Books.
in a contrast to other groups historically, this seems more far more imposed from within the minority than from the majority.
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