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ThisIsSin

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"Men and boys, from a very young age, are influenced by hardcore online pornography and The Manosphere(tm) to [among other things] see women merely as sex objects" is a vital component in the origin story progressives tell themselves.

And indeed, most men have "been exposed to hardcore online pornography" (translation: they, or someone they know, typed "boobs" into the Internet) by this age. They're not going to tell you that, though; it's one of those things adults are weird about, and they know that.

No mechanism for how this actually happens is ever expanded on beyond mumble mumble sexual novelty, but whether or not it actually makes sense is generally irrelevant.

Get them out doing useful things, competing in sports or other activities.

But that is not Safe.

Give them male only spaces. They’ll be fine.

But that is not Equal.

And if you pay attention to what kinds of messages young men gravitate to, it’s messages exactly like that— calls to purpose, to doing hard things and building something worthwhile.

But that will mean men will think themselves entitled to the fruits of that labor rather than paying women their fair share.
That is not Consent.

If you worship these things as Goddesses, and many do- you don't generally get elected without professing your belief in these things- you cannot fix this problem. Only by rejecting these Goddesses can you solve the problem.

"Incel" is just a catch-all term for "dissident"; it makes far more sense in this context.

The killers are just plain evil and they kill someone at the top of the liberal victim hierarchy.

That's the motte; "man bad" is the bailey. If you have the power to fight in the bailey, why retreat to the motte?

Liberals seem to be low key against this?

Which liberals?

If you mean progressives, they hate it. The claim it devalues women is trivially correct and everything progressives do is downstream of this.

Actual liberals are generally too busy watching porn to comment.

the nation of Canada is one consequential urban corridor containing 50% of its population (Quebec City -> Toronto)

Which is why it should be its own country. They have very little in common with those outside there and everything they do is destructive to those outside of it.

That is how it should be.

I do wonder how much that's uniquely Canadian vs just being a feature of parliamentary systems.

Uniquely Canadian is an oxymoron. Also, this is a design feature of Parliamentary systems.

Canada is hardly a one-party state.

Canada in 2006 was not as harshly divided urban/rural as it is now. The ultimate problem is that one specific hyper-urbanized area is able to dominate Canadian politics to the detriment of everyone else, so if it votes as a bloc (and it does far more often than not) for any variety of reasons there aren't any moderating factors (no law, no bill of rights[1], no separation of powers) to slow them down.

Actually, that's another design feature of Parliamentary systems, since the entire reason that system exists is to let London do exactly that to the rest of England. You don't vote for an MP and who they are is irrelevant (again by design- wouldn't want individual members being accountable to the public or anything); you vote for a party and that's it.

[1] Before you say "but the Charter", I will remind you of Section 1, which exists to nullify the entire thing and make it more of a polite suggestion than anything that can be used to defend oneself against government overreach.

and ended with her issuing a number of demands which certainly wont be met by Ottawa

It wouldn't have mattered what she said

Carney will almost certainly represent a lowering of the heat relative to Trudeau

lol, no

but Albertans were about to confidently have their champion and that is now ripped away from them. When a people who see themselves as victims have their hopes dashed is when they are most dangerous

One can only hope.

All of the nastiness of American progressivism, none of the checks and balances that keep it mostly talk.

After all her whole interview was about supporting Pierre.

It would be easier for AB to get policy goals accomplished were its people represented in the Federal government, something they haven't been for a long, long time now. Liberals don't listen to anyone outside of Toronto, and it shows.

But I don't think there's a future for Reform parties in this country and yet another CPC loss/Eastern aggression + economic cataclysm might start convincing people of that.

Meanwhile the liberal party has done a fantastic taking the sails out of Pierre's campaign by replacing Trudeau and cutting the carbon tax.

They have not cut the carbon tax when producing goods, only when consuming them. So the price of gas will drop a bit (and as the US shows, this is important enough for them to draw down their strategic reserves for) but that's about it.

All the Liberal party has to do for Easterners is be "their guy" (and being a fresh face doesn't hurt) if they perceive they're under some kind of threat. Only if they're not will they consider voting for what is, from the Eastern perspective, a foreigner.

Also,

the CPC's public strategy

Danielle Smith is not CPC nor federal, nor is her provincial party named the same way. Canadian politics work a little differently.

if Quebec also secedes, then suddenly we might have two or three highly developed nations to our north

I mean, it's funny you call Quebec highly-developed, but anyway.

A secessionist movement there is going to have to be smart enough to consider Montreal a lost cause, or at least neutral ground (it is not a French city by voting pattern). Their failure to do this last time is the reason why Quebec is not today its own nation- too attached to the Provincial borders.

Canadian nationalism has been the province of the right since being disowned by the woke left and their captain Trudeau for the last decade

Post-nationalism is nationalism for Eastern Big City Canadians. Being interested in the whole country's growth rather than invested in holy crusade against it is indeed a "right-wing" thing though.

Ideological alignment is one thing, but question the sovereignty of my country and insult the flag that I served under and you’ve made yourself an enemy.

Your desire to get credit for putting your life on the line for people who hate you is understandable.

A Liberal + BQ government is not meaningfully distinguishable from a Liberal majority.

One thing that happens in Canadian politics is that as a Reformer, you do not have any of the leeway granted to a Big City Interest candidate

Don't think I have to say anything more than that, really. There are no checks and balances to prevent them from screwing up the rest of the country like there are in the US, which is why this divide is permanent in a way it really isn't there. It's the same problem all one-party states suffer from.

It’s really frustrating how little people seem to react to the facts on their own.

At this point I don't think there's any compromise.

What I'm really opening for is that we may get an Overton expansion to the right, a CPC re-absorption of the PPC, and open calls for very low levels of immigration and the end of DEI/affirmative action. Anything that puts those ideas into the mainstream is a win.

If there's anything that's going to happen in that regard, it's going to be provincially.

I am already lamenting that we wont get a confident and high-agency Western government with a large majority to reverse the damage Big City Easternism has wrought.

[O'Toole] was much more palatable to the average Canadian and far less vulnerable to the changing of the winds.

Lol, lmao even. That flip-flopping is part of what cost them the election in '21- on the right flank, it's worth noting.

So I guess I'm hoping for a small Liberal minority that chides the Liberals and forces them to do a better job.

The last 6 years suggests this will not happen.

The only other thing to add is the real loser in all this might be the NDP.

Yeah, polarization (an American cultural import) means the Western Socialists are no longer viable. The Bloc is the same way when the people of Quebec get scared the rest of the country's going to take away their toys, which is why the Liberals are doing that well in the polls in the first place.

The other half of me finds it a bit galling that the Liberals might escape ten years of misrule and divisive politics without punishment. They are for better or for worse the natural ruling party of Canada

Upper Canada, its interest party, and those who voted it in have done nothing but destroy the future of this country and its culture without consequence, and I hope the trade war they (and it is exclusively they) are insisting we wage destroys it forever. Fortunately, the manner in which they will wage it has a higher likelihood of doing that.

As discontent with their governance rises, so does the probability of a serious secessionist movement.

It's worth noting that the polls (that show Upper and Lower Canada once again uniting to fuck up the rest of the country) show the West voting even harder for their regional interest party. Once the Alberta metro areas start seriously considering this, and extended trade war applied in sufficient quantities (on the Canadian side- tariffs are federal, and the LPC and its voters will gladly burn the nation down this way for ego reasons) will accomplish this, it's over.

If Alberta votes to secede, they will be backed by the full weight of the American establishment, up to declaring war if necessary.

The best ending for us at this point is that the West leaves Canada for good, and becomes part of a full free-trade economic union with the United States but still a nation in its own right. I don't think the Alberta public will accept outright joining the Union as a new State, at least at first; actually, I don't think BC, SK, or MB will either. This is for the same reason that some US territories outright reject Statehood. Ottawa and Toronto will be able to apply more pressure on the parts of Ontario that are not them so it'll take them longer and Atlantic Canada is utterly dependent on government handouts for survival so they'll never leave willingly. There are far more entrenched economic interests in the East compared to the West, and the ones that do exist out West are more heavily enmeshed with American interests.

And then there's the matter of who they'd be voting for in US elections with full Statehood, and the fact that being under American dominion means American institutions, and American institutions means American grievances, and American grievances are wrong and bad (witness how much damage they have done to the whole of Canada already!) so if we can limit the damage they do that's good.

The ultimate problem for AB right now is that it's landlocked, so it needs to be able to cut a path to the sea to sell its wares (the closest warm-water port is Kitimat and it would become a nation away should it leave the Dominion). Having no border between it and the states to its immediate South will help with this, but it'll still be at a disadvantage.

Imagine Vancouver becoming a city-state, we'd pour money in, we'd guarantee their sovereignty

Vancouver will only become a city state should the rest of the province seek a divorce. This isn't a hypothetical when you look at the election map: the current government has literally zero seats outside the GVRD and Island yet the interest party for those areas forms a majority government. Clear evidence of irreconcilable differences, much like the West is to (Upper and Lower) Canada as a whole.

Again, there are certain trade levers that can be pulled to make that happen; the US dropping its softwood import tariff conditional upon desired political realignment and ensuring northern reserves of natural gas are legal to extract would be one of them.

I don't think we should defund religious soup kitchens because the people doing them are religious, and I don't think we should get rid of libraries because the people who show up are on the other team.

But the fact they're religious doesn't make their [secular context] mission of "offering soup" worse, and we're generally not using government funding to run them (though it does still happen occasionally; most of the handout comes in the form of being tax-exempt though).

The same cannot be said for the librarians- and the problem is that most of what they like has no literary value. When we were more neutral, those beliefs had to pay rent (so to speak); gay literature is perfectly acceptable (and the pretense that it isn't because muh socons has finally worn out its welcome) but it first and foremost has to succeed on its merits. We pay for those salaries and programs directly with government money, too.

I initially thought Obi-Wan's hyperdrive ring in Attack of the Clones was something that got improved upon for the Imperial era

Jedi Starfighters are fucking tiny and are designed more as infiltration ships than to be actual fighters.

The A-Wing is the closest Imperial age fighter to it, was designed by the same manufacturing firm as a mass-issue version of those design concepts (you kind of need to have better avionics if you aren't using the Force and it still requires absurd skill from its pilots), and has integrated hyperdrive, but it's also physically larger.

N-1s

N-1s are kind of a meme though. The Nubian government's idea of a defense was to send 12 fighters against a Trade Federation battleship and the only reason any of them survived was for bullshit Jedi reasons- they spared no expense with those fighters and it shows because they had no money left over for any other planetary defense.

(Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go play an old game.)

But forcing crossings of St. Lawrence River and the Niagara River is far easier than crossing an ocean

Again, calling these "rivers" is a bit of misnomer. This isn't the Rio Grande where you can more or less just walk across- it's at least half a mile across (miles in some areas), and it's not fordable. It doesn't freeze in the winter any more either, so that's out too.

If you want to invade you need a green-water navy (to get your transports from the Eastern seaboard through the open water, down the mouth of the Seaway), and only then can you start ferrying gear across. This is not a trivial problem- in fact, I argue that the relative difficulty of crossing this body of water until the mid-20th century is the main reason the Canadian identity exists distinct from the American one in the first place.

(This is, of course, ignoring the fact that this would probably all be done by air; the US can drop more tanks out of C-5s in a day than the Canadians have in their history ever fielded.)

The 40% of Canada that doesn't live in Toronto has virtually no political power, and this has been true for the past 150 years.

The controlling empire being American rather than [Upper] Canadian would change relatively little.

You need tanks and planes mobilized on the border.

Something that a lot of people tend to forget is that there is no land border between Canada and the United States. Tanks aren't going to do the US much good here, and that's even if the average Canadian tank wasn't broken down.

Now sure, you can say "but the Western border", and it's true that isn't defensible in the slightest, but it also isn't really Canada, it's just a territorial possession. The people who live there will all say that too, by the way- they vote like it, those who opposed Canada violently in the past are venerated, etc. Just like Quebec, for that matter.

In truth, Canada is (as it was originally, back when it was called Upper Canada) defined as "the peoples who live in the area constrained by 2000km of vast, relatively impassable Ontario wilderness to the West (there is one road, and a lot of bridges along that road), the Great Lakes and the St. Lawrence to the South and East, and the French to the North (and they are similarly surrounded by water and wilderness)".

As far as the peoples unprotected by the natural barrier of the St. Lawrence go (where you can just drive across), the fact of the matter is there's nothing out there worth taking that the US doesn't already have. Halifax is strategically significant because there's a warm-water port there, and the Great Lakes ports are not (or at least, they aren't yet). Everywhere else is about as populated as the Territories are: PEI has less than 200,000 residents, and NS only has a million.

Thus, Canada is literally an ocean away from the US (in the absence of those bridges, which for all the faults of the Canadian military they will still have the capacity to destroy in open warfare with the US). And sure, while their tactical situation is completely untenable for other reasons- modern artillery has range sufficient to just sit on the US side of the border and dismantle Canadian industry completely unchallenged, something that wasn't possible in 1812- it's going to take the US long enough to actually get their military pieces into position for foreign military aid to arrive.

While it's likely that Canada would still lose extremely quickly due to a complete lack of will to prosecute a war against an ally offering better terms to its soldiers than the Canadian government ever would, the destruction of Canadian industry in that area would nullify Canada's value as an ally. This isn't a war that can be realistically won by the US primarily with a traditional exercise of military power.

Were I to attempt this I'd exploit the fact that the West is unwilling to fight a war the East gets itself into. Thus, I would target industry most commonly found in the East with a competitive advantage against American industry due to its dirt-cheap power, that being steel and aluminum production, and wait for counter-tariffs and a political split to get the West to the table. And I'd offer the most powerful Western province special treatment- a comparative exemption on tariffs to its strategic resource- to suggest that provinces willing to deal independently of the federal government may have other payoffs (and to further drive a wedge between the West and the East, for the East hates petrochemical development).

Which is probably why those things are happening.

If I were looking for a gotcha passage showing Jesus giving priority to men or being demeaning of women, I feel like I could do better.

That was the impression I had from the exchange (though even if it was 100% true, which I honestly don't believe it is, I'm expecting a first-century Jesus to act in a way common to a first-century people where it isn't conflicting with the job He is doing; that's just the way it works). I'm not bothering to discuss the latter half of the NT because we both know they contain a bunch of this (or at least, the excuse to justify a bunch of this; there's still a lot of 'male should lead and be household's head' too with the implication that it's not a job suitable for women, which gets used as an excuse to underperform or fail to delegate then make that failure the woman's problem).

Interestingly, I find that if you read those letters in a slightly more sophisticated/charitable manner it contains a lot of relatively standard group dynamics stuff. Everyone is aware of, or at least able to conceptualize, someone not being able to shut up during the sermon, and odds are you conceptualize this person as female even if you're a woman. So that + cultural outlook = "women should be silent in church"; it's applying the cultural meme in brain-dead fashion to people for whom it isn't true that creates the issue, but t'was ever thus.

It's because he's going about it in the worst way possible.

The people who feel the most insulted are also the ones who screwed up the country with their (and it has been exclusively their) idiotic economic policies. I have zero problem with the complete destruction of their culture and their political power, because they have had zero problems with destroying mine.

And I suspect that, should they win again (for the sole purpose of fighting this stupid trade war), that the Western provinces are going to get good enough at foreign diplomacy that this might occur regardless of what Ottawa wants. Alberta in particular has had some success in this and I think that's a bigger deal than others recognize.

The first order of business should be trying to get all tariffs and duties down to zero in both directions, and negotiating some kind of Schengen-style agreement to get rid of border controls.

Of course it should, but if we're going to do that, having some actual political lever to pull for economic policy will be useful. Hence the suggestion that Canada should join the European Union.