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ThisIsSin
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12hr ago
Incels don't want to pay for sex because the explicitness of paying for the sex inherently kills the fantasy.
I don't want to pay for sex because I'm only willing to risk an HSV-1/2 infection for the benefit of someone I actually care about.
We are (probably) not the same.
ThisIsSin
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13hr ago
Are you disputing my hypothesis?
I'm disputing the assertion it's a productive framing and asserting the hypothesis is inherently smuggling an isolated demand for rigor.
(I asked how it worked, you said "magic", so I interpreted the "porn means desensitization" copypasta was deployed in its standard "man bad" form and moved to a position questioning why "man bad" is a relevant or productive way to think about the question.)
and report a reduction in the amount of visual stimulation they need.
Experimentally, no, I don't agree that's common. The physical and mental effects of seeing something I'm attracted to function normally.
ThisIsSin
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14hr ago
I doubt David Beckham crosses anyone's mind when they think of a typical john.
David Beckham has his pick of Janes, women who [functionally] have to pay to have sex with him.
(Neil Gaiman is an example of this that makes more intuitive sense to men, since "more degrading sex acts are more damaging to the woman" [as in, they are a cost that must be paid] is something they constantly claim.)
ThisIsSin
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14hr ago
The risk is that the combination of the need for variety combined with desensitization will lead you towards things which make
are more and more taboothe target of your sexuality angrier and angrier
Yeah, that's what I said. I don't think it's a valid/fair thing for a sexuality's target to be angry about.
A lot of people quit pornography and report that their sensitivity increases with time.
Death grips degrade sensitivity and the damage is self-reinforcing- the less sensitivity, the harder one tends to grab; toys are effective at mitigating this but are inconvenient and require cleanup (which is further contraindicated if you're abusing the fact the process serves as an exceptionally effective sleep aid).
This is more a physical thing than anything else though.
I can see how this could become a big problem for a lot of people.
How so? There's plenty of content out there, enough to arguably last more than a lifetime. If you want to model it as a drug, fine- most people drink, few become alcoholics, but those alcoholics can destroy themselves pretty dramatically. Sex is more of a prodrug, but the same thing applies.
But that's more of an addiction problem and less of a content problem (which is why GLP-1 agonists suggest effectiveness on those who are addicted to certain kinds of foods; it's a chemical castration, in a way).
I do (by extrapolation) understand the claim that "searching for variety ultimately means you end up jacking it to sexual domination of burning toddlers because nothing else will do", but the people/submissives who are doing that are primarily complaining because it is sexual domination, not because it involves burning toddlers [proof by revealed preference: the average submissive prefers policies that make this more likely, women vote for an increase in/protect sex criminals more than men do- and as such their claims of "caring about harm" range from simply unreliable to outright fabrication].
Burning toddlers are not really that interesting as sexual targets other than 'finally, something taboo again', so the people who prefer freedom-of-thought say 'Rule 34 pre-empts Rule 35; they'll get bored, it's only interesting to the degree that submissives are mad about it, getting off on domination is already about the social context'.
And yes, this "variety problem" applies to all sexualities [complaints about dominants are simply the loudest], and argued against the way you'd expect from the target. For instance, the kind of male teenager who reports being seduced by their female teacher [and those men who take that seriously] only do this when they feel they didn't earn/feel comfortable accepting that submission at their understanding of their own dominant sexuality at the time [and in instances where this seduction is not reported but discovered anyway, it is generally the dominant-sexuality parent, almost always the father, making the complaint "for his own good"]. [YouTube's continual recommendation of bodycam footage appears to pay dividends.]
I have no idea what happens in the brain, but there really are a lot of anecdotal reports out there of desensitization.
I think this is called "aging". It's happened to me as well over time- it's just that it requires more effort to blind your mind to stimuli you don't like.
I'd actually argue this explains most of the quest for more specific stimuli in the first place, since at that point you don't have to mentally block out the parts you don't like and there are more of the parts you like per second.
By contrast, the you of yesterday had better nerves/sensitivity, softer skin, improved circulation, and a higher sex drive, and those things are already doing a lot to naturally blind your mind to things you didn't like. As you lose those things, you have to actually focus, which is also why "gooning" is at its core a meditative practice to regain that state of blindness (and arguably more popular among those who have lost it, and just like age-related pattern baldness, will occur to some as early as their late teens).
ThisIsSin
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16hr ago
I continually hear claims of this but what's the actual mechanism of action?
Far as I'm aware this is just getting bolder/more honest about what one actually always liked rather than the feminist canard of "oh no how horrible, look at these domination scenes, man bad woman good".
At the end of the day, superstimulus gonna superstimulus.
If you're getting off on domination, you'll look at stuff that's more degrading than usual. This isn't that weird provided you're ignoring the complaints of those who share the submissive's gender.
If you're getting off on submission, you'll disappear into the Omegaverse. This isn't that weird provided you're ignoring the complaints of those who share the dominant's gender.
If you're getting off on inflation, DeviantArt has been there for like 20 years. This isn't that weird provided you're ignoring the complaints of those whose weight in pounds begins with the number 1.
If you're getting off on co-operation, there's always hentai (and, like, the actually good doujins). This isn't that weird provided you're ignoring the complaints of women and men who are incapable of anything resembling a healthy relationship, but it's hard to unpack at times because responses to criticism now needs to be gendered.
And so on and so forth.
ThisIsSin
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17hr ago
You should consider how productive it is to argue with / try to own something that is not sentient in any way.
Yeah, but people argue with the average human being all the time. It's a multi-billion dollar industry.
At least I can appreciate self-gratification as a step up, however minor, from doing that.
ThisIsSin
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17hr ago
But not to shit on their faces, surely?
If South Park's assertion of German porn having a stereotype has any validity to it...
ThisIsSin
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17hr ago
And perhaps more saliently, if they banned depictions of cousin marriage they'd have to redact the entire royal family tree.
ThisIsSin
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17hr ago
I don't think you'd be paying any mind to it if the language was the exact same but wasn't a hobby horse of autistic trans people.
Autistic trans people cause Rust, which is why the meme is "pleading to the borrow checker".
It's a more modern Ada, with all that that implies. I think it's the wrong language for something that should be used generally, other than using AI to transpose code you've already written into a language where speed seems to have been more of a priority (which is probably why the secondary meme is "pushing it everywhere, including places it doesn't belong", which is also emblematic of its creating demographic).
we're going to call programming languages ideologically captured based on whether they mandate a semicolon at the end of a line or not?
Languages that use ':=' (the penis operator) for variable assignment tends to be less useful for actual programming than those that just use =. This is because those languages were designed by human beings for actual work, whereas the ones that prefer := Do not put any effort into understanding how human beings write code.
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18hr ago
ThisIsSin
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19hr ago
And indeed one of the videos features the arrest of a teenage boy.
Yes, it's intended to be sexual humiliation for failing to play the market in the way old men approve of. Did you learn nothing from Adolescence (and the public's response thereto)?
It is directionally harmful to themselves, whoever is depicted in the material, and anybody exposed to it.
Point out specifically, on this doll, where the dangerous XXX-rays emanating from the material touched you.
There are serious privacy and moral issues with these techniques
Why's that? Society has investigated its own base instincts and found no evidence of wrongdoing. There's only really one way to hold them to account, and it's coup-complete.
ThisIsSin
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19hr ago
No amount of business transactions are going to solve that.
Ironic that a business transaction is the best way to model their actions.
The market clearing price is too high for those men to be {willing, able} to afford a woman of the same station. That's it. That's all it is.
Risk aversion is defensible if there is no directly observable benefit to taking that risk. Both that and safetyism (to name the symmetric female impulse) are parasitic at their core, but they both exist for a reason. Human instinct is often maladaptive.
{Pornography, prostitution, masturbation} are basically an AI simulation of this, which is why they're rejected in the same family of 'goonslop' (and why old men would want them restricted- especially those that showcase any "cheating" of that market dynamics- as a way to lock young men out of any other alternatives and encourage them to be appealing to women).
Yet these foolish old men, who have no other intelligence outside of instinct, don't understand that this won't fix the fact there are no women who are willing or able to afford the men either. Selfish old women approve of this posture, naturally.
So with respect to the original prompt of "why are F/m, 'help me step-bro', etc. being banned?", this is the answer to that question. Social conservatives were always feminist. One notes that the cultural Enemy of the Boomers was the last cultural movement that made young men great (and actively encouraged them to be with women) and I don't believe that to be a coincidence.
ThisIsSin
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21hr ago
The evidence available to me (including what the site claims) suggests that to the majority of men, they appear to be women, and very attractive women at that.
But I assess that whatever they are, it's hammering the 'uncanny valley' instinct incredibly hard (and it can stay as far away from me as possible). The ones with really squared-off/aggressive faces (and square eyebrows) legitimately look like they're trans, and 'if a hominid is bearing its teeth, it's warning you it's about to attack' also applies.
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1d ago
I found this exercise confusing, discomforting, and... weirdly insulting, to a point. I ran out of steam a bit past 75 iterations (1.5/12 faces on average, relatively high uniqueness). I began to suspect it was all AI 20 iterations in and was somewhat disappointed to discover on the results screen that judgment was correct.
There were a strangely large number of pictures, particularly white women, that were very obviously men in wigs. I ended up skipping enough full iterations of them that it decided to ask me if I wanted to switch to men (lol wtf?); yet, if I was matching with said men in wigs, it would have never asked me that question.
It did manage to assess my type somewhat correctly (turns out I prefer cute women, but I already knew that), though I believe it overfit some of the categories somewhat due to lack of data- there would be ones I'd pick simply to avoid the 'you don't like crossdressing men or women who are very obviously in their sixties? what are you, gay?' question again, which would be highlighted in the output to a much greater degree than they arguably should be.
Humorously, the system thinks I rate white women worse than any other group despite not ever having selected any of those in the other groups.
ThisIsSin
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1d ago
There really isn't a easy explanation. Proper understanding on this specific topic is best gathered through digital means.
ThisIsSin
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1d ago
In the Netherlands, to get a weapons permit you need a good reason, which will be hunting or sport. [Also, other stuff.]
Yes, the other countries I mentioned all have similar licensing laws (and provisions to do those things), and yes, I'd expect Western Europe to be far more despotic in this regard since the State capacity is generally higher.
Yet I will also point out that Europe tends to have more mistake theory in its lawmaking than the US does, which means that Anglosphere countries adopt conflict theory gun laws in place of ones that were ostensibly based on mistake theory regional compromises. Some of that is caused by gynosupremacy, but not all of it.
ThisIsSin
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1d ago
Japan also managed to find a fun way to cripple itself via demographics
I don't think they've crippled themselves- judging by how wasteful their education system is, they're still overpopulated, and the more automation advances the worse that problem gets. They're many years ahead of the curve on the automation-induced wind-down.
At least it's not South Korea, who missed the economic boom [back when automation was unsophisticated enough to create a labor shortage- now it creates a surplus] and are as a result suffering from an overpopulation problem that's drastically worse.
Guns haven't been banned yet, unlike in most of Europe.
The closer to the [American] Anglosphere you are, the worse the gun laws get.
This is because the illiberal/progressive faction in those countries takes their marching orders wholesale from American media and turn them loose on countries that have far less rule of law (NZ -> AUS -> UK -> CAN from least to most restrictive, if you were curious. For the UK, Northern Ireland is a notable exception; I don't think Oranges would tolerate London demanding them disarm.)
Continental Europe is generally more liberal than Anglo countries are; the most liberal countries in Europe were part of the Soviet Union (and arguably because they were part of the Soviet Union).
ThisIsSin
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3d ago
the US and Canada do not possess any "settler movement" of white kids moving onto Indian Reservations to steal their houses
Sure they do- the 'white kids' are the 'commie protestors', and the Indians are 'everyone who lives outside of the areas with the greatest concentration of commie protestors'.
They even have these nice residential schools they'll send your kid to if you fail to adopt their religion (the trans-substantiation of men in dresses) and pass laws that just let them seize property with the Indians as an excuse. (The land seizures are starting to result in 'commie protestor' governments losing their power, but not quite at the level it probably should be.)
The Indians are just an excuse.
ThisIsSin
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3d ago
Yeah- it's honestly really strange to notice that sure, I could buy a can of decent soup for 3 bucks... or I could buy hot dogs and buns instead, which are 4 bucks a meal assuming you eat two at a time (and commit to eating them for 3 days).
But then, that's just the general case of "if you couldn't afford the more expensive goods, you can't afford the ones that used to be cheap either". Yes, the quality is technically better, but I'm really not sure what I gain by noticing that given that everything's relatively tasteless to me anyway. (Which is part of the reason I bought the cheaper stuff in the first place.)
Then again, 'penny-wise, pound-foolish' means I don't really pay much attention to it because it will never be worth my while to do so. Food doesn't actually take up that much of the budget and, had I a family to cook for, the cost amortized over multiple diners is still better than an industrial kitchen, with the exception of fried chicken, sushi, or Chinese food.
Rising expectations are most of the affordability crisis.
I could believe K-shaped economies are exacerbated by "just put literally everything on credit".
People who were leveraged to the hilt in 2020 are now in a wildly better position than everyone else simply because the debt has in large part inflated away- so really, why not budget like the government does? Indeed, if you don't (or don't have the credit because you're out of work, or in school), you're just getting wrecked by everyone else who does.
It's just like student loans: a loan with an interest rate under inflation means the effective interest you pay is negative, so if you don't do that, you're just leaving money on the table- just make sure your credit's good enough and don't lose your job (and even if you do, unemployment will still cover you for quite a while provided you were making the appropriate amount of money before), and you can take advantage of all that free money too.
And, if you do keep it for 15 years (or longer- both because it's a luxury vehicle, and now that manufacturers have figured out how to rust-proof that's realistic), it'll still sell for what a new base model at that time will cost.
Well, that and the 'this used to be a cheap staple, now it's just as expensive as avocado toast' thing. For instance, you want lunch meat for your sandwich? You can buy corned beef for 4 bucks per standard unit, or higher quality salami for 5 bucks per standard unit.
Used to be 1.50 and 4- so sure, you might not necessarily like it, but at least it'd be 40% the cost of the tastier alternative. So at that point, if you can afford the cheaper product, you can afford the upgraded version; if you can't afford that, you can't afford anything.
my only response is going to be to look at them and say, “Who the fuck are you dude?”
My response to that is slightly different and delivered slightly under the speed of sound.
Obviously outright murdering people or forcibly sterilizing them is just out of the question
Well, let's assume you're out of room for all of your population to be economically viable, so you go across the border and kill the people currently occupying that space who don't decide to answer the eugenics question the way I would. That's still outright murdering people, it's just that it's not your people you're murdering.
I also take the slightly more aggressive view that 'forcibly sterilizing' can also be accomplished by intentionally destroying the social systems/commons that made reproduction possible in the first place, especially if the people doing that are past breeding age and just want to prop up their retirement (or avoid having to ever engage productively with the opposite sex if not) at the expense of others being able to afford families. So yeah, I legitimately do think we've forcibly sterilized more than a few people, and it's kind of a small wonder that they don't answer the eugenics question in the above way given that's the norm for humanity.
but I don’t know how to clear the board mentally with those people to have a level headed discussion about it.
Well, that's kind of why you have the kind of secret society bullshit that tends to go along with discussion of eugenics. My answer tends to be "don't- if population control has to happen, then it'll happen naturally at a socioeconomic inflection point no matter what anyone else does; we can and arguably should sort it out then, and not before or after". (Of course, that also tends to mean that any martial virtue is selected out of your society, like what happened in Europe in the two Great Mass Suicides around 1915 and 1940.)
ThisIsSin
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4d ago
That isn’t what most people mean by the term though.
I mean it at the systems-level, much as everyone else who uses the term does.
While I disagree that the current financial barrier to reproduction was an intentional design choice (and rather the inevitable outcome of an aging population trying desperately to keep an asset price bubble inflated until they're dead), I don't think it necessarily holds for other eugenics systems either. It is not the fault of the retarded that reality is biased against them, but the fact remains that it is, and in a zero-sum system [where paying for them to exist ostensibly comes at the cost of fertility for everyone who isn't retarded] that has consequences.
Eugenics simply asks "how many more fingers do you want on that scale?", and I contend that even an answer of "none" is still doing eugenics, at least from the perspective of those who would be on the low side of it.
It's probably important to note that genetic improvement is the private-est property you could ever have, which creates a huge liability for communists because that is (or quickly becomes, for capital begets capital) impossible to redistribute. Even the most milquetoast socialist would bristle far more at the thought of "trickle-down genetics" than they do its economic counterpart, which is arguably the root of why others are correct to worry about permitting that in excess of the current reality-dictated base rate.
I thought that was just called "sales".
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