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What are your favourite inherently funny words?
Almost all incel slang makes me laugh, owing to the incongruity between how silly it sounds and the deadly seriousness with which members of the community use it. Clavicular, sounding like he's on the brink of tears, spitting out "I am not your JESTER!"? Hilarious. It is utterly beyond me how anyone can use the phrase "cock carousel" with a straight face: how can you say it and not picture a literal carousel, but with all of the plastic horses replaced with gargantuan plastic penises? Basically any portmanteau ending with "-maxx" ("looksmaxx", "moneymaxx", "lethalitymaxx") will make me laugh regardless of context. Their terms for assorted sub-categories of incel ("currycel" for desi incels, "ricecel" for Asian incels) are delightful, and inevitably invite the creation of neologisms ("potatocel" for incels of Hibernian extraction; a Turkish friend proposed "kebabcel").
But the incels' crowning achievement in unintentional (?) hilarity is the abbreviated form of their term for a disfavoured woman, "femoid". The word "femoid" is not particularly funny, and doesn't scan: neither "FEE-moyd" nor "FEM-oyd" really sound satisfying to say, and tend to break the rhythm of the sentence in which they are spoken. Perhaps in recognition of this, some incels abbreviated the word and produced a linguistic masterpiece: foid.
Foid. Foid. Fooooyyd. Foid! FOID.
Utterly marvelous. Pretty much any tweet that uses it will have me laughing, regardless of context. Sometimes these will be clever plays on words (e.g. someone discovered that the First Lady of New York had drawn a comic depicting herself lying on the ground with a police officer kneeling on her back, to which someone quipped "Finally – George Foid"), but they needn't be: simply using it in a completely unrelated context is a reliable recipe for hilarity. It's one of the purest invocations of the WHEEZE meme I've seen in years.
But I want to emphasise: I don't find this word funny because of what it means. "Foid" is funny in a way that "bitch", "whore", "slut", "cunt"* etc. are not, despite being roughly synonymous. It's an inherently funny word: it just sounds funny, completely independent of its meaning.
What are some other examples of inherently funny words?
*Wikipedia has a category page called "Pejorative terms for women", and the first listed example is "adult human female". Uhh, sure thing guys.
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8hr ago
as I approach fatherhood
Is your wife expecting?
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10hr ago
"For every problem the Lord has made, He has also made a solution." --Thomas Edison
The solution for male people who want to be female people is talk therapy until they understand that they will never be female people no matter what they do. No other solution seems remotely as effective.
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10hr ago
I would be very surprised if @Celestial-body-NOS is an enthusiastic advocate for capital punishment, but I've been wrong before.
I will quote myself:
Of course, post-Singularity, all of these petty squabbles about sex, gender, crime, safeguarding etc. will be completely irrelevant.
But, you know, the Singularity hasn't actually happened yet, if you haven't noticed. I find it deeply strange that you're trying to enact policies which would make the world better in a post-Singularity world, while fully cognizant of the fact that they make our pre-Singularity world demonstrably worse, and that the Singularity is unlikely to happen in your lifetime. It's like someone spending all their money on frivolities today because they're certain that they'll win the lottery tomorrow. Actually, it's worse than that - it's like someone spending all their money on frivolities today because they're certain that their great-great-grandson will win the lottery long after they're dead. Even if you knew for a fact that your great-great-grandson would win the lottery long after you're dead, shouldn't you plan your finances a bit more sensibly while you're still alive?
Why do debates with trans activists invariably devolve into nonsensical circular reasoning ("a woman is a person who identifies as a woman", "a woman is a person who experiences misogynistic sexism"), bizarre outré navel-gazing about our transhumanist future, or both? "In the future we'll be able to implant uteri in trans women's bellies and they'll be functionally indistinguishable from female people in every way that counts - therefore we should treat trans women as women now." (paraphrased) And if my grandmother had wheels she'd be a bike! What on earth could this far-off hypothetical scenario possibly have to do with the world in which we currently live, in which nothing resembling a Singularity seems likely to happen and in which no trans woman will ever bear a child in either of our lifetimes?
What constitutes a sensible course of action varies depending on a society's current tech level. You are correct that we can treat medical conditions now that we once could not. But don't you agree it would be phenomenally irresponsible to go back in time before the invention of the telegraph and urge a small child to play with a dog that was visibly foaming at the mouth?
If and when it becomes possible to transplant ovaries and uteri from female donors into male recipients such that trans-identified males can actually get pregnant and bear children, that technological development will surely have dramatic ramifications for our society. But that day hasn't arrived yet, it seems profoundly unlikely to arrive in either of our lifetimes, and I can't rule out the possibility that it never will.
I think it makes sense to promote policies that will produce the best outcomes for our current tech level, not the hypothetical future tech level a few decades away. If you went back in time to the pre-telegraph era, urged a small child to play with a visibly rabid dog, and the child contracted rabies and died – I can't imagine the child's parents would be mollified by your assertion that a reliable treatment for rabies is just around the corner, even if that's true. By the same token, perhaps in the future medical technology will advance to the point that people born male can literally become female (and vice versa) – but they can't now, and it's foolish to act as if they can and design policies on that basis.
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13hr ago
You can't always tell what gamete-producing organs someone had at birth.
No, I can't always tell. I have never denied the existence of androgynous people. But hard cases make bad law, and I maintain that >95% of the time one can accurately tell from a cursory glance what gamete-producing organs a given person was born with. It therefore follows that, 95% of the time, a person demanding that people respect their privacy and not make inferences about their gamete-producing organs is making an unreasonable and quixotic request.
And, obvious point, but the fact that Nicole Maines looks passably female in a closely framed still image with a full face of makeup and flattering lighting does not remotely imply that I wouldn't clock them in person.
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13hr ago
Then why, when directly asked to define "sin", did you cite a work in which sin is explicitly defined as "treating people as things"? You could have just as easily said "sin is when we don't do what we ought to because it's inconvenient or too expensive".
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14hr ago
My response hardly seems any less charitable than your contention that, without being ruinously expensive, his proposal could only come about by decriminalising most of the crimes currently on the books.
I agree with your contention: that's why I don't think his proposal is realistic.
I found a list of core exercises online. Last night I went to the gym and began working my way through them, looking for ones I particularly enjoyed. These included:
- Dragon flag
- Russian twist
- Medicine ball slam (tremendous fun, that)
- Kneeling landmine rotation
among some others that I didn't enjoy as much/seemed too easy.
Though the discomfort hasn't entirely subsided, my lower back felt a bit better today, although it might be coincidence. I think I'll need to ask one of the trainers in the gym to inspect my deadlift form and tell me what I'm doing wrong.
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1d ago
I can live in a country that has laws that I consider reasonable (and it does seem that most western countries consider bottom surgery sufficient for most of the above - even the Reform Party justice minister spoke in favour of not automatically housing trans women in male wings)
If the UK is making housing trans-identified males in the female estate conditional on their having undergone bottom surgery, that's news to me.
So I do feel sad that in your worldview, I don’t deserve the full extent of protection from rape and violence some other people do, because I wasn’t born the right kind of human.
Yes, but as I pointed out, in your worldview, some people deserve greater protection from rape and violence than others, because they weren't born the right kind of human.
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1d ago
You do deserve to be protected from rape, just as everyone does. But even though protecting trans-identified male inmates from rape and assault is a valid and noble goal, I think housing male inmates in the female estate is a bridge too far, and would be unlikely to pass a cost-benefit analysis. In the hypothetical scenario in which you were sent to prison for a non-violent offense, I would hope that you would be housed in a minimum security prison along with other non-violent offenders. I would also hope that the prison warden/governor would recognise that, owing to your appearance and anatomy, you are especially vulnerable to being violently victimised, and take proactive measures to prevent that outcome (such as placing you on protection if necessary).
I don't think it's really fair for you to equivocate between "if sent to prison, I don't think you should be housed in the female estate" with "you don't deserve to be protected from rape". I'm sure you don't think a slim, petite cis gay man (that is, a twink) who gets sent to prison ought to be housed in the female estate, but I doubt you'd appreciate it if I summarised that opinion as "twinks don't deserve to be protected from rape in prison".
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1d ago
'Trans-woman murdered' isn't the only bad outcome we are trying to avoid; there is also 'trans-woman beaten up by low-life with extremely retrograde Views on gender roles as a warning to anyone else assigned-male-at-birth who might be thinking about getting in touch with their feminine side'.
I'm curious if you have any statistics on how many times this has happened in British prisons, and hence if your proposed dedicated prison for trans-identified men is a solution in search of a problem.
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1d ago
Thanks, I've replaced it with an archive link.
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1d ago
I am curious how you arrived at the conclusion that sex-segregation is the best way to protect female inmates from harm amounts to "treating people as things". I legitimately do not see how the one follows from the other.
Your tic of defending your worldview in an indirect way by linking to other authors (and not even including the relevant passage in the body of your comment), many of whom were writing fiction and not discussing the object-level topic under discussion, is very telling. It makes me think you lack confidence in your own arguments to persuade people, and that your goal is not to persuade but to distract and frustrate.
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1d ago
It certainly seems to be the case with the person you also, perhaps confusingly, called "Bob" in your other reply.
Noted, I've amended.
The fact that male people are so much stronger and more aggressive than female people, even after undergoing bottom surgery.
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1d ago
ב, Do I need to tap the sign?
I don't know what this is supposed to mean.
I have even heard of men who were born with all the visible male parts, never considered that they were anything other than men, fathered children, and then went to hospital for some procedure and found out that they had been carrying around uteruses for seventy years!
Some concrete examples or citations would be appreciated. The sex-is-a-spectrum people routinely claim such edge cases exist and then are unable to dredge up even a Weekly World News article.
I didn't set the terms of the thought experiment. @Celestial-body-NOS did: take it up with him them because their sex is a private matter between them and the Almighty, and no one is entitled to know it without their explicit say-so!
I reiterate that I think my preferred proposal is vastly superior for any metric you care to mention:
- Segregate violent offenders from non-violent offenders, by putting the former in maximum security prisons and the latter in minimum security prisons. The really dangerous ones go to supermax prisons.
- Place prisoners who might be especially at risk of being violently victimised on protection, on a case-by-case basis. Examples of the kinds of prisoners who might be especially vulnerable include: unusually young prisoners, prisoners with physical disabilities, prisoners who have testified against other prisoners, gay prisoners, and trans-identified males who have been diagnosed with gender dysphoria and begun medically transitioning.
You might recognise this system as the system which most Western countries already use. Every proposed alternative (transferring trans-identified males to the female estate, or constructing a special facility just for trans-identified males regardless of whether they have been diagnosed with gender dysphoria or not) just seem obviously worse to me than the above: the former because it needlessly endangers female prisoners, the latter because it needlessly endangers non-violent offenders by speciously lumping them in with violent offenders on the basis of an unfalsifiable identity characteristic they purportedly share.
I will admit that, in many cases, placing a prisoner "on protection" entails keeping them in their cell for almost the entire day. On the one hand, this does generally accomplish the stated goal of preventing them from being assaulted or murdered by their fellow inmates; on the other hand, it's functionally equivalent to solitary confinement. What we'd ideally want is some kind of special facility or wing within a prison in which all protection prisoners could be sequestered, but still be able to move about and interact with each other with a comparable degree of freedom as they would expect in general population, but with a reasonable expectation that they would not be violently victimised. Of course, such a facility or wing would immediately become the place that every prisoner would want to serve the entirety of their sentence in, and we'd end up right back where we started. For this solution to be effective, there would have to be some gatekeeping and discretion on the part of the prison governor to distinguish the legitimately endangered from the malingerers. Simply admitting everyone who claims to identify as a woman (or gay, or suffer from a physical disability etc.) is not a workable solution. It is not just ripe for abuse: it is practically designed to be abused. It makes a mockery of the prison system.
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1d ago
You know, I have a very hard time believing that a heterosexual male (that is, a member of the sex responsible for a good >90% of indecent exposure arrests and unsolicited photos of their genitals sent to people they barely know) has wholly innocent reasons for inviting a female person to inspect his genitals within an hour of meeting her, even if he has maimed said genitals beyond recognition. I think you would interpret Charlie's behaviour much less charitably if he did not purport to identify as a woman, and I don't think this is at all warranted. "I identify as a woman" is not a get-out-of-jail-free card to act like a creep and a sex pest.
to conclude that they're sneakily getting off all the time just from being perceived as female.
Yes, it would be wrong to conclude that they're doing it sneakily. Plenty of them make no secret of it.
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1d ago
Skill issue.
Sincerely – what on earth are you talking about?
If some wants to know the PIN for your bank card, not out of an intention to use it for fraud, but because they think it relevant whether it is a prime/square/triangular number, does the fact that they are not technically a thief mean that they are justified in prying it out of you?
If the PIN for my bank card was tattooed on my forehead in 60pt characters and I didn't wear a beanie or a burqa, it would be meaningless to demand that people respect my privacy.
Heh heh cumsquirt.
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