ArjinFerman
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ArjinFerman
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5hr ago
I don't know about "die", but yeah, poor performance is going to be very bad for user activity.
ArjinFerman
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5hr ago
The one time I tried to look into it, it was a massive pain in the ass, and I'd much rather use Go, or literally anything else.
ArjinFerman
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6hr ago
Sorry, clicking youtube link is such a rare scenario for me that I'm completely satisfied copy-pasting them like a caveman.
ArjinFerman
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14hr ago
So do I:
- https://freetubeapp.io/
- https://invidious.io/
- https://piped.video/
I mostly stick with FreeTube.
It's often enough that when it happens, you're not surprised, but not so often that paying for a subscription makes any sort of sense.
And on the off chance it was taking them a while to update the alternative players, I never experienced the issues ublock / Brave's builtin blocker.
ArjinFerman
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1d ago
Rightist and anti-AI: it's a threat to traditional values, it undermines the human soul, it's a Satanic deception designed to lead us astray from the path of righteousness.
You have everything from people outsourcing the analysis and reasoning skills - particularly destructive in case of children who might never learn them - a particular type of women getting one-shot by AI-BFs and therapists, and all the way to enabling the creation of dystopian systems of surveillance and manipulation of entire societies, and you're going to go with "it undermines the human soul", huh?
ArjinFerman
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1d ago
I don't follow him, but I don't have him filed in under "normie" or "less engaged". I distinctly remember him wading into just standard politics (around the time of the 2008 crisis) and culture war (women aren't worse in sports, it's just that the way we do sports is sexist... because of the way the ball moves...). I suppose they're dispersed enough that you could say he's smart enough to stay out of it for the most part.
ArjinFerman
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2d ago
I guess I needed a break from my project, because something compelled me to start rearranging my OS'. In related news: Devuan is kinda cool... or I get the feeling it will, once I finish beating it into submission.
How are you doing @Southkraut?
ArjinFerman
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2d ago
Even if I, and others like me, don't buy into the values of these institutions, the fact that they promote these values so aggressively shows that there are vast swathes of society that accept them as well (which are, importantly, the bits of society with money and political power). If transition is so important to people, the idea that someone would desist instead of moving to California or wherever feels bizarre. Also, even though I don't buy into their values, doesn't mean I'm going to go out of my way to be a dick about, and even the people who might be so inclined will probably think twice about it given the possibility of cancellation. So while the claims of discrimination aren't impossible, they just don't sound terribly plausible.
ArjinFerman
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2d ago
And if they are tall, broad-shouldered and square-jawed, and they decide to transition, but half-way through, pre-op, they feel the society treat them as a freak, or a sexual deviant, or mentally ill, or just an extremely ugly woman, and they decide to not go through with it. Is that really inconceivable?
Not inconceivable, but a bit of a tall order. These arguments sounded reasonable 10-ish years ago when the whole thing felt new and mysterious. Now, that everyone from international corporations, governments to public schools has spent years draping themselves in trans flags, and putting trans people front and center, it's a bit hard to believe.
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
like the "I don't want to have to marry a man to make a living/have to marry a woman to obtain companionship and sex" people to obligate marriage?
Like the "there is no such thing as famine anymore" / "motherhood is merely the means of reproduction and little else" people are to it. People who didn't want to marry always existed and weren't a problem.
Rest assured I don't think that being a 1000 body count fuckboy/slut should be the highest aspiration and the goal of all freedom-loving people.
I'd say that this what your views lead to, whether you think they should or not, but the next step is likely going to be sexless rat utopia, so we won't even get the 1000 "body" orgies.
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
I'm not comparing you to someone who claims that western society is good, because it provides abundance, even if that means you have to put in effort to not grow fat, or regulate the food industry.
I'm comparing you to the HAES / Lizzo's beuty enjoyers / fitness is fascism people. People who see fatness itself as liberation from oppressive forces like beuty standards, healthy diets and exercise.
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
This is like framing America's obesity epidemic as "liberation". Technically correct, I suppose.
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
It's about as confusing as a person wanting to get in shape, instead of being content to fill themselves up with junk food and whatching their health deteriorate. It would be nature taking it's course too, wouldn't it?
As for it sounding socialisty, there aren't that many devoted libertarians out there.
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
By looking at the reaction to a given proposal. "We should favor coping strategies to deal with body image issues, rather just prescribing hormones" would be met with a huge amount of hostility, which is not indicative of uncertainty.
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
Oh no... did I forget to add "...on this issue"? Or were you expecting people to be logically consistent?
The claim itself is easily defensible, I just linked you to a source where the "top experts" talk about everything from transitioning non-dysphorics to schizophrenics.
To be fair, I think that bodily autonomy generally makes a good Schelling point. There are certainly limits, few would argue that the psychotic who is stabbing himself to kill the spiders crawling inside his skin should get bodily autonomy,
Yes, well, few as they may be, there seems to be a higher concentration of them in the biggest international association concerned with transgender health.
but get really upset with a mother who does a better job of protecting her kid from chemicals, even though death from oxygen deprivation is the natural fate of a human almost anywhere in the observable universe.
The majority of the observable universe being the cold vacuum of space, you're quite correct, but the one bit of the universe where humans are typically seen, depriving them of oxygen does usually require some form of intervention. If you want a real gotcha you can say they would be upset at refusing a blood transfusion or a dialysis machine, though even there the Natural Law enjoyers have arguments for why they are ok with that, and not other things.
Failure to prevent the onset of puberty is not meaningfully different from purposefully inducing puberty
Puberty is a necessary process for development of not just all humans, not just all primates, not even only of all mammals, but practically every animal observable to the naked eye, that anyone will ever run into. Without it it, you lose access to one of the core functions of your body. You can say that it might be worth it under specific circumstances, bot it's loony say they're the same.
just like killing a patient by turning off their ventilator is not meaningfully different from killing them through the injection of pentobabitone.
The ventilator itself is an active intervention, while puberty is, again, the process of developing a core function of one's healthy body, making the analogy somewhat stilted.
Naturally, that does not mean that any intervention is good, just that there are no moral shortcuts which save you from looking at the outcomes.
This is where most utilitarians cheat. It's not enough to look at the outcomes, you need a moral framework to judge those outcomes by.
On the object level, I do not have a race in the "gender interventions in minors" topic
I got used to the "no dog in this fight" folks, but I'd imagine you'd have somethimg to say about your "real world" model of mental health not really reflecting reality because of this issue.
ArjinFerman
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4d ago
In the real world, the mental health services do not work like that. Feel free to visit a psychiatric hospital sometimes and check.
There were people who checked and the results look a lot closer to his model than what you call "the real world".
On what basis do you jump to "fantasy"?
The insane amount of institutional power that they wield, for one.
it can hardly be simultaneously true, as right-wingers typically believe, that trans women naturally evoke revulsion, and that any adverse social consequences that they experience are imaginary.
a) If this place is such a massive rightwing echo-chamber, and since trans issues are often discussed here, you should have no problem linking a few examples of this, no? Well damn, looks like they showed up unprompted.
b) I don't see a reason for why these things can't be true, "revulsion" does not mean you won't be treated professionally in the public.
ArjinFerman
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4d ago
The official, top expert approved line is "bodily autonomy above all else". It doesn't matter if you want to be male one day, and female the other, thus showing there is no single natural state you're aiming toward, it doesn't matter if you have gender dysphoria, thus showing there could be anything unnatural about your current state to begin with, hell, it doesn't matter to them if you are of sound mind. All that maters is that you want to do it in the moment, they believe it's a part of self-expression , and you should be able to change your body the way you change clothes.
"Gender affirming care" is the proper terminology precisely because they wanted to separate the treatment from the questions of the body and what is natural to it, "gender" is a social construct after all.
ArjinFerman
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4d ago
I'm not seeing it. For one, I've never heard anyone argue fornthe pro-trans position in those terms, so even if such people exist, they're a tiny minority.
Even purely theoretically the position doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I could understand it with regards to someone like Imane Khelif, who's one sex, but due to a development disorder looks more like the other. You could then say that by adjusting his body to be more male, you're bringing it closer to it's natural form.
With Eliot Page, where you have someone with a perfectly healthy and normal female body, but try to change it to be more male, how is that bringing it closer to the natural form?
I kinda don't believe in utilitarians, they tend to use "utility" to cover up their actual values. For example, I'd say that a utilitarian would recommenend improvimg the diagnostic process so that there's less people detransitioning for "identity evolutions" reasons (they hurt their health only to end up where they would have been anyway, without thebmedical interventions), but another utilitarian can just as easily say "well, if they don't regret it, have they *reaaaaally* lost any utils?". Similarly there aren't really utilitarian reasons for favoring hormones and surgeries, over coping strategies to deal with body image / identity issues.
The actual conflict is between Natural Law people and transhumanists.
ArjinFerman
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5d ago
propose a budget that sucks
you know other side must vote for your budget, refuse to make it not suck, refuse to negotiate
Oh sweet, so all the previous shutdowns are retroactively the Democrats' fault now.
Also don't pretend like if President Kamala Harris was trying to pass the "trans surgery bonanza budget" you'd be saying that the Republicans should suck it up and just vote with the Dems to pass it
I mean, in either case I'd be un favor of them doing what they think is necessary, and taking responsibility for it. If the Dems think this is worth shutting down the government over, it's their choice, I just want them to own it.
ArjinFerman
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5d ago
Be the change you want to see. Nothing wrong with either of these topics, but they're hardly groundbreaking conversations, we've had them many times before.
Not really. It comes and goes in waves ever since it was "solved".
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