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naraburns  nihil supernum  18d ago (text post)   3224 thread views

Quality Contributions Report for August 2024 - Happy 2nd Birthday to the Motte!

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These are mostly chronologically ordered, but I have in some cases tried to cluster comments by topic so if there is something you are looking for (or trying to avoid), this might be helpful.

Quality Contributions to the Main Motte

@FCfromSSC:

@Glassnoser:

@cjet79:

@WhiningCoil:

@Dean:

@100ProofTollBooth:

Contributions for the week of July 29, 2024

@wqnm:

@Astranagant:

@Tophattingson:

@Felagund:

Contributions for the week of August 5, 2024

@RandomRanger:

@Felagund:

@naraburns:

@SSCReader:

@DradisPing:

@gattsuru:

@100ProofTollBooth:

@urquan:

@faceh:

@felis-parenthesis:

Contributions for the week of August 12, 2024

@CrispyFriedBarnacles:

@Dean:

@MonkeyWithAMachinegun:

@DirtyWaterHotDog:

@blooblyblobl:

Contributions for the week of August 19, 2024

@YE_GUILTY:

@Grant_us_eyes:

@Dean:

@2D3D:

@wemptronics:

@Throwaway05:

Contributions for the week of August 26, 2024

@RandomRanger:

@Goodguy:

@MartianNight:

@Tanista:

@gattsuru:

@Shiro:

@Amadan:

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I was curious to see what were the top comments from the last month that didn't make it here, so we have:

@Walterodim, on the "factchecking" of Trump

@functor, on the downfall of the UK

A throwaway, on ideological pressure on doctors

@DTulpa, complaining about the media response to Harris

@raakaa, on the double standard of people being against cancelling Home Depot workers, but putting up with cancelled Olympians

@ABigGuy4U, on biased fact-checkers

@DTulpa, expressing discontent with the disorderly homeless

@functor, on the problems in the UK

@Walterodim, characterizing Tim Walz

@Walterodim, on election integrity concerns with a leftist tinge

@urquan, on women, and the words of the delphic oracle

@gattsuru, on European censorship

@SteveKirk, on Musk and corporate (in)competency

@naraburns, on pro-knifing counterprotests

@Walterodim, putting media activity in the active voice

@self_made_human, on immigration accelarationism

@IGI-111, on the political effectiveness of economic idiocy

And that's the first page, down to a net upvotes of 47. (All but two had at most 4 downvotes.)

The Quality Contribution system posts seem to be considerably more effortpostish, and the ones passed over are more likely to be applause-lights. So it seems like good selection. It's interesting that the slate of posters for each kind of post is not the same—some of us (e.g. @Walterodim) seem to be pretty good at making a not overly long reply that's popular, while not making AAQC-style comments. Others of us effortpost more. Both can be good.

Anyway, thanks to @naraburns for the work in collecting these, and to @ZorbaTHut, that we have this place.

Ooho I love this! Pls do this more :)

I'm probably not especially likely to do so in the future—this occasion was more to satisfy a point of curiosity (how do AAQCs and popular posts compare) than to provide a service, and the insights are now sufficiently gleaned. But if you want to check yourself, you can just go to comments and sort by top for the last month.

how do you sort for all the threads at once though?

Here you go:

https://www.themotte.org/comments?sort=top&t=month

gattsuru has 18 AAQCs.

naraburns has 14.

Urquan has 13

Walterodim has 8.

self_made_human has 7.

IGI-111 has 4.

functor, raakaa, and DTulpa each have 1.

Stevekirk and ABigGuy4U have none yet.

Overall seems like a lot of user overlap with the AAQCs, but matches what some people notice that it can feel a bit like a crapshoot which of their comments make it into the AAQC roundup.

There's certainly plenty of overlap, and you could imagine some of the posts that were not selected being so. That said, the posts that are selected feel noticeably more AAQC-y to me than do just the most upvoted ones, which seems to me to indicate that those categories do not overlap perfectly—it is not just a crapshoot, even if there's a component of randomness.

I did not mean to imply that the people mentioned here don't get AAQCs. I know that's false, some of them did this month. I just wanted to note that the ratio between posts that are well-liked and those that are of the sort that earn AAQCs seems like it might vary by user to some extent.

functor, raakaa, DTulpa, and urquan each have 1.

Not to toot my own horn, but I believe I have more than just one.

Lol ya I was way off. Sorry got you mixed up in a different tab. I'll fix it above

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