cjet79
Anarcho Capitalist on moral grounds
Libertarian Minarchist on economic grounds
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Because it exists? The agentic AIs are already a thing
What crucial characteristic is AI missing? Agency? It's not missing it so much as they just choose not to implement it.
I think we have AGI. Or at least sorta of. It's probably in the range of a 110-130 IQ person, but in just about all domains. Humans in specific domains that are very smart can still usually beat AIs. But college kids are almost universally not able to surpass them.
The only difference is agency. Which is why agentic AIs are some of the hype right now. AI just sits there and does nothing without human prompting. Which seems like one of the dream scenarios for AI safety obsessed people.
Agentic AIs seem like possibly the real wave of AI that will change society. When you can tell an AI "Hey go be active promoting a thing on the Internet". The Internet is probably going to be the first casualty of AI.
This is a bigger problem with games that have solidified in their rulesets. If a game has an active and changing ruleset then usually the rules will get changed to respond to new circumstances, or a boring/broken strategy.
I personally enjoy newer games, a smaller player base, or constantly switching games (where I'm among other amateurs) to avoid running into ultimate strategies that make the games boring.
We often have pretty different taste in novels, but I also love the xianxia genre. I'm just usually of the opinion that like one mega novel every few years is enough for me.
I've read A Will Eternal, which I think is supposed to be one of the more lighthearted works by Er Gen.
The other book I read I can't even find the title of. I tried for a while with chatGPT and it was unable to find anything.
Its hard to read about total sociopaths for me. I still generally prefer the Western trope of caring for something being the reason to gain power.
I'd say its worth people trying it out, especially if they have read a bunch of western fantasy and find themselves going down increasingly weird subgenres and getting bored with the mainstream hits.
Or here is a crazier idea.
Turn it into t ball.
No pitching.
Also no homeruns. It needs to stay in the field or it's out. And only one strike.
Outs aren't counted. You just run through the hitting lineup for each inning. If someone is out they don't have an opportunity to score.
Those changes might make me watch baseball. Strikeouts and walks are the most desired results of the teams and the least desired results as a spectator, get rid of them.
My wife is pregnant so I was searching for a non alcoholic red wine. Apparently they are very difficult to make, or at least make in a way that a wine company will attach their name to it. Got a sparkling rose instead, guess we will see how that tastes.
Gone forever is my preference.
I had to deal with it back in the day and I heavily disliked it. For many of the same reasons I dislike AI posting.
It becomes back door culture warring, and it started fights constantly. And I had to basically read a bunch of the articles to play judge when the fights started. So it also became a gish gallop attack on the mod process.
No matter how often I explain this people still want it back. But less effective moderation + having the BLR back is win in some users eyes, so I suspect they will continue to advocate for it.
Yes it's too bare linky
In case it was not clear from the edit, @netstack reversed this mod decision. @WhiningCoil is not banned at this time.
There is often a very fine line between booing your outgroup and discussing your outgroup. Especially when the topic of discussion is some of the worst characteristics of the outgroup. I feel like the post hit some "boo" applause lights while actually being a true discussion. I might have made the same call as netstack had I been in a hurry and just clearing out the backlog.
The mods are human. We care about the community. We do respond to feedback. We are active participants here and we care about the quality of discussion.
This could technically be in the culture war thread, but would probably get dinged as a low effort post. I'm not going to approve it as is.
I generally suggest three things for a non low effort post:
- Context - what the heck are you talking about.
- Analysis - what is said and not said by the direct source. Adding personal analysis is highly suggested here.
- Opinion - What is there to discuss? Why should this change someone else's mind? did it change yours? Why do you think it should change people's opinons?
This could technically be in the culture war thread, but would probably get dinged as a low effort post. I'm not going to approve it as is.
I generally suggest three things for a non low effort post:
- Context - what the heck are you talking about.
- Analysis - what is said and not said by the direct source. Adding personal analysis is highly suggested here.
- Opinion - What is there to discuss? Why should this change someone else's mind? did it change yours? Why do you think it should change people's opinons?
Reagan is the classic example. But pat Buchanan in the 90s is an additional attempt. Government grew over the time period.
Love that blog, I think I've read that post before but went ahead and read it again anyways.
Ha I like this! I got Murray Rothbard.
I asked for other close matches,
- Lysander Spooner
- Ayn Rand
- Ludwig von Mises
- Friedrich Hayek
- David D. Friedman
And now I'm blushing.
I play a weird sport called underwater hockey. I've mentioned it before. But that's not the fun part for this post.
There is a Turkish guy that occasionally plays with us. How do I know he is Turkish? Because he tells me and everyone he meets in just about every conversation.
He starts most of his introductions to strangers by guessing what nationality they are from. He is pretty accurate most of the time. But also it's a hilarious form of interaction to see in modern day America, where ethnic origins feel like a slightly taboo topic. I'll admit to feeling a little jealous.
His accent and clear foreignness helps him get away with it I think. Or maybe I could get away with it too and I just haven't tried the strategy of "guess their nationality" as an ice breaker. It also maybe ironically helps that he is a clear Turkish nationalist. He earnestly believes that Turkey is the next great up and coming country, and that I should look into investing in companies over there. Turkey is also going to do great in the next Olympics and world cup, or so he tells me. I should also consider visiting there on my next vacation, it's a beautiful country.
He makes me smile, but he also does a damn good job of recruiting random strangers. Remember how I said I know him through underwater hockey? Yeah he somehow convinces people to play this sport while hanging out in the hot tub before practice. We could use some more people to play with us. Maybe I should be a Turkish nationalist.
I thought maybe that was the case that he had a magic sword. But it also happens in reverse where the orcs cut down the men defending the white city. And again the guys have plate.
I just haven't seen the David and Goliath movie where he looks really badass with the sling (does it exist). I'm aware of the story.
The key word I used was "see".
I played a lot of mount and blade. It's made me too practical minded.
Small weapon and shield for storming castles. You don't want the swings getting stopped in the scrum, and you need something for taking arrows.
On horseback: a shield on the back with a two handed weapon for weak enemies. Or a lance and shield for strong enemies. Bow and arrow for weakening enemies or killing peasants.
On foot in a field shield and medium weapon.
In media almost anything can be made to look cool. Though I have yet to see properly cool depictions of slings, halberds, and crossbows.
Sadly most representations of combat utterly gloss over how effective even basic armor was, a medieval knight was a tank that was almost immune to sharp damage while not tired, and only really countered with blunt force trauma.
This has always bothered me. Aragorn was cutting down orcs like they were naked even when they wearing heavy plate.
Some media gets it right. There are two duels in the King that get it right. And "A Knight's Tale" which is silly in many ways also managed to get armor correct.
I think its the same kind of telepathy we all have, where you move things with your mind that are connected to your mind via electrical signals.
Paranoia and Trust are opposites. Trust is required for cooperation. Paranoia prevents it. You are too paranoid.
You cycle alts through here because of your paranoia.
We don't trust you in turn because the small request we have of users which is to maintain a consistent face/username is something you won't do.
Society is an iterated prisoners dilemma. You have chosen to hit defect on the assumption that everyone else will do so as well. You'll never be proven wrong, because you have defected first and most people run a tit-for-tat strategy.
There is such a thing as cooperation. And it's a little ridiculous to think that Amadan would ban you for this comment.
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I read Zvi he follows AI much closer than I will ever bother to.
There are potential tricks around the problem you talk about. One of the easier ones is asking the AI to prompt engineer itself. "How would you request a task to do X" ... "How would you improve this prompt that is a request to do task X" ... keep doing that and asking separately "which is a better prompt to do task X".
The sense I get is that there is thinking that an AI is doing, but it is mostly like a dice roll. Rolling consecutively for a cumulatively high number isn't a great strategy, but you don't need to do that. You can instead do something where you re-roll for the best possible roll, then move on to the next roll and do the same thing.
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