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Kanye West pulled an insane stunt at the Grammys where he had his wife strip naked in front of where they take the pictures. Clearly a publicity stunt (since he wasn’t invited anyway), and he quickly got kicked out.
What’s shocking to me is how freely so many media outlets and people on social media are sharing it completely uncensored. For some reason X doesn’t seem to be marking it as pornography either. It’s quite disturbing to me how widely and casually it’s being shared. I’m not going to link because I don’t think it’s good to share this type of thing but I’m sure a quick search will find the video in question.
The worst part is that his wife looks clearly disturbed, sad, and afraid as he stands there looking around in a sort of combative way. It’s truly awful.
A lot of people on the right saw Kanye as a sort of martyr who stood up for his beliefs enough to get completely cancelled. Hopefully this stunt shows that he is not truly aligned with most conservative’s values, and is just a billionaire who loves attention. We’ll see how it goes.
Maybe. I'm sure a hypothetical therapist would ask her, a model, "so, what are you getting out of posing nude at the Grammy's?" and her response wouldn't be "absolutely nothing, I'm just a prisoner here in my world famous musician husband's $35 million Beverly Hills mega-mansion".
Just seems like performance art to me.
I agree. It might even fail to rise to the low bar of "performance art." This is a publicity stunt and one that a Kanye affiliated lady has done already!.
When women don't have clothes on, people take notice. It isn't just attractive or famous women. All over the world, every single day, men pay out inordinate amounts of cash simply to see women with less or no clothing on. Sexual interaction need not be present. I'm talking about topless bars / strip clubs / what have you. Let's also remember that men continue to do this when endless explicit sexual content is freely instantly available in digital form. In 2025, more people have access to endless free porn than clean drinking water - and men are still literally throwing cash at IRL women on the daily.
So, Kanye, a person who has made his money in the pop culture entertainment industry, knows that "tits = eyeballs" and that this will be the same today, tomorrow, and forever.
There is nothing more and nothing less to the story.
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Always a little bit amused when people not only take the most surface level read of a particular person's behavior, but aggressively impose their own biases on it, reading deep into 'body language' tics that may not even be there.
Its trivial to 'fake' a particular emotional state, especially to cameras. They're literally entertainers its part of their job description. The weird public behavior is about the weakest evidence of the true situation you could find.
So no, I have my beliefs about Kanye, but not much reason to believe he is actually going to lock a woman up without her consent and abuse her until she can't think of leaving.
Its absurdly hard for me to believe that this woman is 'trapped' in a marriage with Kanye in any real sense. My current most likely hypothesis is they both have some kind of exhibitionism kink that Kanye is rich enough to indulge on the largest platforms around, which is gross in that including the public into that is really violating everyone elses' interest in maintaining certain standards of decency.
And in those cases, acting embarrassed or humiliated is oftentimes literally part of the kink.
Also vaguely reminded of Bezos' new wife and her outfit at the Inauguration.
Yeah, this is my take too. It's a way clearer explanation than both people risking their reputations for basically nothing.
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Kanye could had been a sort of martyr who stood up for his beliefs enough to get completely cancelled in a previous episode. Just don't cancel people who say that Jews cancel people if you don't want them to be martyrs. That and the threats from his personal "doctor"/handler can't be just dismissed because the dude is acting foolishly. He certainly is not some kind of consistent conservative icon though.
His antics definitely have reduced some of the bite of his past complaining about Jewish producers pushing degeneracy in the black community through what art they support, and what they encourage people to be doing. But he could have been partly right then and part of the problem now. Partly, because art isn't only the result of producers desires without artists themselves having influence. Even though producers and agents can be influential not only through dictating to artists but also by what kind of people they choose to promote.
Regarding his wife's extremely slutty outfits. Kanye West seems to approve and so does she. It doesn't make sense to make her a victim in this. It isn't the first time she is almost naked in outfits that circulate online. I highly doubt she is constantly forced into it.
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On a side note (deliberately avoiding the morality-side discussion):
It is interesting to watch the back-and-forth between "everything social you do is potentially publicly visible forever" and various attempts to allow social contact without said permanency.
In this case, you can view this as an attempt at "you can't share this publicly without running afoul of explicit content laws". Not a particularly successful one.
Other attempts I can think of offhand (not from Kanye West in particular, just in general):
I do not think that this was the intend. I mean, it would be trivial to put black bars over the naughty bits and then you can share the photo on prime time TV.
Personally, I think that different settings have different expectations of privacy. A bedroom is different from a private party, which in turn is different from the streets, which is then different from big entertainment spectacles. If you run naked across the field in the middle of a big soccer game, you can hardly argue that your privacy has been violated when people take pictures.
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How people see him as anything other than mentally ill is beyond me. He constantly expresses delusions of grandeur, and he's freaking Kanye West! His beliefs and values are tied to reality by gossamer threads. I don't mean to dismiss or demean him. I think he is very talented. He thrives in the spotlight, and seems to enjoy it. But he behaves like a lot of people with bipolar disorder. Who knows why he does what he does sometimes.
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I don't think it's necessarily against conservative values? I can easily imagine there's some type of point they're trying to make about celebrity culture being a form of prostitution and selling their bodies. It came out about as lucid and legible as you would imagine it would when someone with mental issues is in a situation where no one is able to stop him.
Umm, no, public nudity isn’t really a right wing thing.
For its own sake no, but I can see it as a way of denouncing sinful celebrity worship, once warped through the mind of someone with a bad understanding of how his actions are percieved by others?
No, a right winger denouncing celebrity worship will just say so, and not only not do that but not resort to up to interpretation performance art of any kind.
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That kind of shock value performance art is more of a leftwing thing.
Because the culture's approval was coming from left wing institutions, so it was less fruitful to do shock performance art as a right winger. Maybe we'll see more of it from the right if the culture does shift the way it seems it might be, though Kanye's an attention junkie and is jumping the gun by a lot.
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I think it’s best the US stops the way it oddly thinks about sex and the naked body. Granted, I was born abroad but I’ve lived here for decades and probably have the same sensibilities as everyone else.
Europes nakedness probably won’t work here due to many reasons, but I think showing an uncensored news story where the main point is ‘ woman gets nude as stunt at celebrity outing ‘ should be fine.
Kanye I don’t believe was ever seen as someone who was standing up for conservatives or someone with a conservative bent, it always seemed like finger pointing at a crazy guy who was fucked by the liberal establishment and might be clawing his way out in a rightward direction. Plus his gospel album was a banger.
What is "Europe's nakedness" anyway?
I live in Finland and the way people approach nudity is absolutely very different from even Germany, nevermind something farther away like Italy.
It's also highly context dependent. Yes, you go to sauna naked (it might even be coed if you're in your 20s and at the summer cottage with friends). You might also see a bunch of students running naked around the block as a dare if you lived close to the student housing in a university town. If someone pulled a stunt like Kanye, people would think they're crazy and either pulling a shitty and inappropriate performance art stunt or really need to see a psychiatrist and get back on their meds.
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For all that people bring up the supposed different attitudes to nudity between the US and the EU I don't really get it. I live in a European country famous for its supposed sexual liberty and you would absolutely not see something like this stunt in public.
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Do you really think Kanye chose her outfit? Seems to me the woman is an exhibitionist. She always dresses semi-nude.
But yeah, the 'dress' giving the news outlets a veneer of plausible deniability that she's naked is pretty funny.
The pre undress pics in my feed are maybe the first I’ve seen that lady fully clothed.
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Kanye is definitely a weird guy, but that doesn't mean he's wrong about everything.
That seems to imply that there was something to be right or wrong about. I don't really see it. What even is the point of contention here?
I mean in the controversies he got in before, like, whether George Bush cares about black people or not, for example.
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Man, nudity. Not necessarily something you want to see from everyone, but surely some billionaire's wife is easy enough on the eyes. And even if she isn't, we just return to the default case of "well that's just what people look like under their clothes". I don't understand the American War On Nudity, though I shall tolerate your prudish culture.
American culture is far more tolerant of nudity now than it ever has been. When else would television shows like The Boys and Game of Thrones get away with showing so much of the human anatomy as within the last three decades?
Boy’s nude swimming was a mandatory subject in American public schools until the seventies.
A clever way to weed the gays out.
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Right after penis inspection day, right?
No, Americans just used to have a very different attitude towards (male)semi public nudity.
Those were not the only different attitudes. Those attitudes existed at a time boys would receive direct instruction on the dangers of preditory homosexuals. Homosexuals could be excluded from many places due to their propensity for unnatural un-chastites.
The YMCA had greater focus on young Christian men. There are lots of older pagans at the YMCA where my children swim. I'd prefer the organization to return to Muscular Christianity.
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They are cable shows, not TV ones, aren't they? Theoretically, you can only watch them if you paid for HBO/Amazon, you can't stumble upon them while browsing the channels for cartoons after school.
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Seems to me they're actively trying to be transgressive, and nudity is a means towards that end precisely because it's still so very taboo.
Or maybe nudity just tickles people in the lizard brain and showmakers can finally get away with it because the taboo really has weakened.
Hell, I don't know. I just find it weird that something as extremely basic as being naked remains a big deal at all. But I realize of course that this is not a mainstream opinion.
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More tolerant than before, but still quite puritanical relative to Europe. As I understand it, nudity in Europe is much more divorced from sexuality than in America. The shocked reaction demonstrated here seems exaggerated for a dress (well, "dress") that's 15 square inches of fabric away from a bikini.
Recent examples of nudity in American media reinforce the contrast. Even now, anything including nudity/involving sexuality is Adult and Mature and even the mere acknowledgment of genitalia is risqué. Meanwhile, the Netherlands has a children's show about a man's prehensile penis.
Big difference between same-sex nudity and different-sex nudity, no? I am a proud connoisseur of nude Japanese hot springs: there is a certain comforting intimacy in having a bath with all the members of your community from the young boys to the ancient wrinklies. I can’t imagine that a mixed-sex version would be the same.
(Yes, there are opposite sex attendants. They are not young and nubile, quite the opposite, and they do not send any of the signals that would make nude bathing awkward.)
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There is some truth to this, but it also sounds like a teenager's excuse how he came to possess a VHS tape of Emmanuelle. It is a variation of "the grass is less prude on the other side of border" effect, and not very good one. I don't think a pretty lady in skimpy outfit is divorced from sexuality anywhere in Europe. There is only a local difference in where the lines in previous battles for standards of public mores have been fought and lost. In general, Paris, London, Berlin and other big city urban cultures have had a different mores than more conservative small town - rural cultures. In some countries the urban mores have gained more ground than in others.
Concerning Dillermand show, I think Danish religious conservatism decidedly lost during springtime of people's and definitely by around WW1, something to do with industrial pork agriculture urbanizing the rural areas and parliament's iron grip of church providing no ground for a Christian revivalist movement. (Church of Denmark has no archibishop, they are ruled in name only by king and directly by parliament, resulting in a church ruled by concerns of secular non-believers.)
I LOLed a little. I live in a very rural area far away from big towns, and you can find nude camping grounds and saunas practically on every other hill, and for every major bathing spot at a lake, there's another where skinny dipping is the norm. And it's not only or even mostly the libertine city folk who trek out here to go wild where nobody recognizes them; there really is a significant demand practically everywhere.
Which isn't to say that there isn't a cultural rural/urban divide. There is. But nudity is on the rural side.
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