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Culture War Roundup for the week of April 14, 2025

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Deporting him is one thing, but sending him straight to the gangster's prison for the worst people imaginable because he wore a chicago bulls hat is a bit much. They should at least ask Bukele to let him out.

The guy is a wifebeater and a gangster himself.

You need to actually back up assertions like this, or why you believe it. Not just drop one liners as rebuttals.

Two different judges deemed him part of MS13, the court papers also clearly state he is a wife beater.

https://theworldwatch.com/videos/1629701/dem-senator-denied-meeting-with-ms-13-member-after-flying-to-el-salvado-wife-beater/

Cool. When we tell people not to make low effort assertions without evidence, we are not saying "I don't believe you; prove it to me. We are saying that when you assert things with low effort one liners, proactively provide the evidence.

gangster himself.

Pics or it didn't happen.

because he wore a chicago bulls hat a confidential informant of purportedly verified reliability named him as a ranked member of the gang.

Also, he got stopped doing what looked rather like human trafficking in 2022, but the Biden FBI told the locals to let him go.

confidential informant

Very likely a criminal.

"Human trafficking" in this case being a scare term meaning "He was an illegal alien driving around a van with other illegal aliens".

Transporting 8 illegal aliens from Texas to Maryland in a way that seems suggestive of organization and planning. I think coyotes hiding people in the frames of vehicles to sneak them across the border is a reasonable use case of the term. Carpooling to the Home Depot parking lot, OTOH, is very much not. This case seems somewhere in the middle, probably a bit closer to the former.

Is there a better term you'd suggest instead?

To meet the definition of trafficking, the people being trafficked have to be being forced in some way. There's no evidence of that here; these people could be illegal aliens who paid to get across the border, workers on a traveling contsruction crew, gang members coming back from a gang meeting, or any number of other things without it being "trafficking".

I don’t think traffic implies forced. Coyotes traffic people across the border because the people want to get across the border.

Trafficking does imply forced. Coyotes are involved in human smuggling, but not necessarily human trafficking.

Human trafficking, also known as trafficking in persons, is a crime that involves compelling or coercing a person to provide labor or services, or to engage in commercial sex acts. The coercion can be subtle or overt, physical or psychological. Exploitation of a minor for commercial sex is human trafficking, regardless of whether any form of force, fraud, or coercion was used.

Debt peonage counts, so if the coyotes are taking people across and requiring them to work off the cost of their passage, that's "human trafficking". But if they just pay to get across, it is not.

Human smuggling seems to be the better terminology. I'll use that one to describe this instead.

as a ranked member of the gang.

In a city in which he has never lived?

Also, he got stopped doing what looked rather like human trafficking in 2022, but the Biden FBI told the locals to let him go.

Source?

In a city in which he has never lived?

I'm not sure the inter-national criminal gang is super strict about territoriality. But sure, adjust in a slightly less probable direction.

Source?

Here

Abrego García was pulled over because the vehicle was observed “speeding and unable to maintain its lane,” according to the documents. Abrego García had an expired Maryland “limited term temporary driver’s license,” which is provided to individuals who are not U.S. citizens, authorities said.

The officer identified eight other individuals in the vehicle and Abrego García advised that he was driving them from Texas to Maryland, according to the documents. None of the passengers had any luggage and all provided the same home address, which was Abrego Garcia’s address, authorities said.

Abrego García allegedly pretended to speak less English than he was capable of and attempted to confuse the officer by responding to the officer’s questions with his own.

Sounds a fair bit like international-criminal gang coyote type work. So maybe re-adjust in a more probable direction.

Re-adjust a bit, but not too far given that the source is The Daily Caller.

It was the first result when I searched. The incident is being reported elsewhere as well. If it's verified, are you going to adjust in favor of the Daily Caller being more reliable, and many other media sources engaging in deception by omission?

Yes, actually, I will.

Oh, lovely. I'll "readjust a bit" about the guy even existing, given that the source is the modern media.

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