Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
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Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
2hr ago
Well, I understand your opinion. I think you're wrong and honestly, being a little silly here, but I am not trying to persuade you to be either a rationalist or a stoic.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
1d ago
You seem more invested in the conflict than I am, but it doesn't bother me. While I wouldn't call myself a "stoic rationalist" or a "rationalist stoic," I wouldn't scoff at the label.
I think the part that hangs you up is the discipline of stoicism I find the least relevant, that of Physics, concerning the nature of God. I find stoicism more interesting in its mental practices and its connection to CBT.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
1d ago
I'm aware they are different philosophies, though I disagree that they "could not be more different." I find them similar in their systemic approaches. As I said, I don't identify with either or take either one as ground truth about the nature of reality.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
1d ago
If someone annoys you and you don't have a substantive rebuttal, blowing raspberries is not constructive. Knock it off.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
1d ago
All(most) rationalists are atheists, but not all atheists are rationalists.
I think rationalism is kind of like stoicism (both philosophies I like and try to practice, though I don't really "identify" as either a rationalist or a stoic) - the basic outlines are unobjectionable and sensible, and more people would benefit by them, but the more fine-grained you get, the harder it is to be a "true" rationalist/stoic. Nobody can act with pure rationalism or stoicism all the time, and the more seriously you take it the more you become entangled in questions of "what is the real rationalist/stoic answer, anyway?"
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
2d ago
The mods don't really know what to do about it either. We don't have a lot of levers to use that won't just disincentivize posting in general.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
2d ago
A Gish Gallop is not a long post meandering in several different directions. A Gish Gallop is making an argument and then backing it up with a barrage of weak arguments and dubious facts, none of which really hold up if examined closely, but which are hard to address en masse because the arguer can keep switching from one point to the other ("Okay, you say Not A, but I notice you didn't even address B, C, and D, why is that? Hah!")
You are mostly just expressing your personal preference as to what type of posts you'd like to see. I don't entirely disagree with you, but we aren't going to require people to "only post about one thing at a time."
As for upvotes and downvotes, that's unfortunately an inevitable result of evaporative cooling. I would say the Motte is still more ideologically diverse than the average forum or social media site, but the number of people willing to post long posts about their hobby horses is becoming narrower, and upvotes mostly reflect the general attitude towards those hobbyhorses (generally, "right good, left bad").
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
2d ago
Way too much generalizing.
"My enemies want bad things and hate good things" is a fat raspberry, not a coherent or accurate description of everyone on "the Left."
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
3d ago
Back when interest rates were 2%-3%, a 30-year mortgage was practically free money, but today, if you can afford the house you want with a 15-year mortgage, it will save you a large amount in total payouts. Most people take 30-year mortgages so they can afford more house.
Some people will say take the 30-year mortgage and make double payments when you can afford them, which saves you almost as much but allows flexibility should your finances become strained. That works, but requires financial discipline, and if you can comfortably afford the 15-year rate, it's still a better deal.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
3d ago
Sure. But I think you are pointing at a different problem than what dogma is focused on.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
3d ago
It's a very basic concept that isn't being used pedophilia. If you don't have this concept, you have to accept the Orwellian newspeak idea that in California, 17 year olds can't consent.
I think everyone understands that age of consent laws are arbitrary and when the law says someone can legally consent does not necessarily correlate to when someone actually has enough agency to consent. Age of consent various from state to state and from country to country, and everyone knows this does not mean that teenagers in Alabama are ready for sex earlier than teenagers in California. This is no less true of age restrictions on everything else, from driving to enlisting to signing a loan.
Inventing a concept like "scientific consent" just sounds suspiciously like an attempt to punt. Even if you and I agree that five-year-olds cannot meaningfully consent and most 17-year-olds can, if you reject age-constricted consent and you just want go on vibes, the door is open, yes, for someone to argue that a five-year-old has enough awareness and agency to consent. (If you think this is absurd, enjoy some Piers Anthony).
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
3d ago
Yes, I know what prepubescent means.
My point is not that being thirsty for a barely-legal anime character makes someone a pedophile, my point is that splitting hairs over the exact age (or technical age, hence the thousand-year-old dragon meme) and secondary sex characteristics of a character clearly drawn to be childlike fits a certain archetype.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
3d ago
Misuzu Kamio is not prepubescent.
No idea who this is (other than a Google search telling me she's some kind of reincarnated moe light novel character) but that's some real "She's actually a thousand-year-old dragon" energy.
Being scientifically able to consent means you can understand what is going on and make an informed decision.
Look, I don't love @FtttG's call-out (@FtttG: Argue with the OP directly if you take issue with his statements, do not play the "Reminder: OP is a bad person!" game). But you aren't exactly beating the rap here. "Scientific consent" seems to be something you made up, in the way that people who want to make up terms to justify something that would otherwise be hard to justify will do. It has no legal (or scientific) basis. "Can understand what is going on and make an informed decision" rests entirely on how we define "understand" and "informed," and having unfortunately seen some interviews with actual pedophiles, they will absolutely argue that 5-year-olds can understand and consent to sexual relations. 12-year-olds certainly think they can understand and consent to sexual relations. So if your definition of consent rests on the expressed internal mental state of a child, you are going to be defending the premise that essentially anyone who's verbal can consent.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
4d ago
So look, I am not going to ding you for riding your hobby horse, as annoying as it is. But this entire post is nothing but reposting what some X-personality says. I don't know who Thuletide is or why we should care what he thinks. Is he noteworthy, famous, is there some reason why his thoughts about banging teenagers are interesting? When someone posts a Happening from Twitter that has CW significance and is making the rounds, we'll usually allow a thread about it (we prefer the OP at least frame it with some context and some thoughts of their own), but not only did you not do the latter, but this is literally just "Here is some dude on the Internet with hot takes I agree with."
If you want to write an effort post with your thoughts on the gynocracy preventing older men from accessing nubile fertile young females carefully selected for their evolutionary fitness, go ahead and write that post, but if you just want to repost the resentful yammerings of randos, I will point you to Leave the rest of the Internet at the door:
In keeping with the rules above regarding "low-effort" and "weak-man" comments, and our goal to produce more light than heat, we ask that you refrain from posting bare links to culture-war-related discussions held outside of this sub. If you are going to link to another platform we ask that you please put in the work to contextualize the post and explain why it is relevant to readers of this community.
IOW, "random person said something on twitter" by itself is not really worth of a top-level post.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
6d ago
I think you (and apparently a lot of OPOL devotees) are overthinking it.
The research does generally support OPOL theory, in terms of being the most effective way to raise bilingual children. But it is not the only way. The idea that "Mom speaks to the kids in English, Dad speaks to the kids in Russian" is well and good, but it doesn't mean that if Mom and Dad talk to each other in English in front of the kids that you've ruined their bilingual education.
I don't know how strong the evidence is for "cognitive benefits" of multilingualism (though I've seen enough anecdotal evidence to believe it) but I do know a lot of kids grow up regretting that their parents never taught them their native language.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
6d ago
I see what you're doing here.
Normally, I don't love this kind of thing and I'd even chide you for not "speaking clearly," but I have to admit this is well done. I am not even certain you aren't sincere.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
7d ago
The list of people you bait like this and then proceed to disingenuously JAQ at before declaring you're blocking them continues to grow. This entire thread seems to be little more than an attempt to bait people and "win" a fight that exists in your own head.
You've been warned before about this kind of engagement. It is not productive discourse. You can have opinions, you can have arguments, but you cannot come here just because you want to satisfy some kind of "I totally got you, sucker!" argument fetish.
Banned for two days this time. Ban lengths will increase if you do not amend your mode of interaction.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
7d ago
Ya know, Ken White, of Popehat fame, just posted a lengthy, whiny screed about how ridiculous it is that Bluesky(!), of all places, gave him a timeout for saying someone should kill Elon Musk.
Must have been shocking to him that even Bluesky balks at calls for murder of your political enemies (when your enemies are, after all, objectively evil people who need to die to prevent more evil).
The Motte is not Bluesky. However, we still tend to draw the line at explicit calls for assassination. And no doubt if someone called for assassinating Elon Musk here, it would get lots of reports and downvotes.
We give people a long leash-- you can even Kulak-post about how violence is good, actually-- but specifically saying "kill these people" is getting pretty close to the sort of thing that could get Zorba served with a warrant, or whatever they do in Europe.
Don't do this.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
9d ago
Why is Pride and Prejudice, essentially Victorian era chick lit,
I will not suffer such Austen slander!
First, Austen was Regency era. A generation before the Victorians, and there are some pretty significant differences (like the freedom with which Austen's heroines go unaccompanied to parties or go on walks with men without escorts and such, something Victorian ladies basically were not allowed to do).
Second, today Austen's novels are mostly considered "chick lit" and generally filmed as romances, but in her time, they were widely read by both sexes and considered comedies of manners with insightful descriptions of human fallibility, not female wish-fulfillment ("chick lit") despite the fact they generally ended in a good-hearted but poor woman marrying up.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
9d ago
I think it takes hundreds of hours, but those hours are themselves easy, unlike math.
The ease with which children learn languages is exaggerated, but yes, it's easier to learn languages when you are young. It is not "easy." The "passive language-absorbing sponge" theory is not true.
The thing about the Muslim countries I refer to is that they don't learn as much about Martin Luther King Jr., the American Revolution, or the reproductive cycle of flowering plants in elementary school
I think you would be dismayed to learn what kids in Muslim countries do spend much of their school hours learning. And while I can guess what you think of Martin Luther King, Jr., I would be dismayed (am dismayed) at American students not being taught about the American Revolution or the reproductive cycle of flowering plants.
There is a trade off but imo a foreign language is a skill and knowing factoids about history, American or Algerian, is not.
Understanding history and being able to relate it to the world we live in is definitely a cognitive skill.
Kids should actually know something about the history of their country and the world. A population ignorant of history and science but which can speak a couple of languages is not a recipe for success.
Amadan
Letting the hate flow through me
9d ago
Very few 90 IQ students are learning French, Modern Standard Arabic, and classical Arabic. "An Arabic dialect" is their native language. MSA is a formal version they learn in grammar class and use nowhere else, and classical Arabic they only get from the Quran and most don't understand it any better than the average English speaker can follow King James Bible English. A version of French is learned by Arabs in North Africa but usually just enough to kind of get by.
You have an extremely exaggerated idea of how easy it is to become multilingual. And teaching elementary students a useless dead language to satisfy some classicism fetish would be a complete waste of time. They can learn Ancient Greek in college if they have an interest in it (but then you'd probably mock them for studying useless humanities).
The Big Stick is when you get banned. I am not amused that you think this is a joke.
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