AlexanderTurok
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AlexanderTurok
16d ago
Presumably the same reason it didn't wade into tax policy or include a pot roast recipe. It isn't an article attempting to lay out structured life advise for young people.
The title of the article is "The Future of the Pro-Life Movement Is Going to Be Built in Our Own Homes." Subtitle is "We have a tremendous opportunity to actively build the future of our culture, starting with our kids."
AlexanderTurok
19d ago
there's no recommendation of trailer-park behavior like getting pregnant at 15
There's no condemnation of it either.
Similarly, given that some number of people will, I am told, get pregnant at 15
What I find objectionable is the mentality that teenage pregnancies just randomly fall on some proportion of the population. In fact, they are far more likely to occur in some subcultures than others, specifically those that treat it as something that just randomly happens.
AlexanderTurok
19d ago
"Any sane pro lifer in this day and age would probably Counsel waiting until graduating high school before marrying the sweet heart and, maybe naively, they'd Counsel not having sex until then."
Then why doesn't the article say that?
AlexanderTurok
20d ago
A recent article in NR provides a good example of the nature of today's pro-life movement (emphasis added):
The Future of the Pro-Life Movement Is Going to Be Built in Our Own Homes
When I reflect back on the past year, one story keeps coming to mind. It’s not a cultural trend or a court case, but rather a very personal, hidden story that for all I know speaks to so many other hidden stories like it.
One of the most radiant, joyful people I know chose life against the odds when she was just 15 years old; she told her story on social media only this year. This woman, Veronica Keene, is one of untold numbers of women who chose life against the advice of most who knew her well enough to offer it.
{snip}
When I look at her life — and at her children, her grandchildren, and her happy 34-year marriage — I wonder how many women would have chosen life if they’d felt strong enough to reject all of the voices telling them not to.
{snip}
So challenge your young men. Encourage them to become responsible, loving men who will respect, honor, and take care of the women in their lives. Model strength and grace for them. Show up for them every day. Give them the love and guidance they need to help build healthy, supportive relationships as adults.
Set your daughters’ standards high, too. Make sure they know they can come to you for advice and support when or if they make destructive decisions. Make sure they know they are worthy of respect, deserving of love.
I suspect that some people support or at least do not oppose pro-life because they see it as a "cultural" defeat for feminism. But ask yourself, is this really any better? There's the same gender-based double standards, but only one side is telling them the path to having a 34-year marriage is getting pregnant at 15 years old. (Yes, I know girls used to marry and have children at 16 back in the 19th century, the keyword there is married, very different from the trailer-park behavior this article is promoting.)
[ETA: you can read the article by using archive.ph]
AlexanderTurok
1mo ago
The WHIMs on Earth are less fertile than average in a country already experiencing sub-replacement fertility. How does a Mars colony deal with that?
AlexanderTurok
1mo ago
Republicans are winning over tech bros and unions, and bleeding college-educated voters.
Unions sure, but I'd be surprised if Republicans were winning more tech workers than they did in 2012.
AlexanderTurok
1mo ago
NYT had a good article about political sorting:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/10/30/upshot/voters-moving-polarization.html
AlexanderTurok
1mo ago
Here's a map of the Presidential vote swing from 2012 to 2024:
https://x.com/PatrickRuffini/status/1860310329248325759
It makes me wonder how much of Trump's appeal to midwestern industrial workers is dependent on trade rather than a broader, cultural working-class identity. I don't think farmers in Iowa swung massively toward him because they were mad their factories were being sent to China. Ditto with the Rio Grande Valley and Miami-Dade county.
AlexanderTurok
1mo ago
The challenge with striking against the pro-life movement is it's unclear what exactly the pro-life movement wants. Do they want more children or fewer?
AlexanderTurok
1mo ago
I said "Griggs v. Duke Republicans" which are a subset of urban, educated, irreligious voters. RFK Jr., who supports reparations and throwing "climate deniers" in jail is not part of that. He's more a Dale Gribble voter:
https://www.richardhanania.com/p/the-rise-of-the-dale-gribble-voter
AlexanderTurok
1mo ago
Vance is definitely a Roe v. Wade Republican, see: https://x.com/JDVance/status/1722311695140298978. Musk is just an average Fox News watcher at this point. RFK Jr. is not a Republican at all.
AlexanderTurok
1mo ago
Be more critical of Trump and his administration and movement. Don't be the partisan for a tribe you aren't even really part of.
AlexanderTurok
1mo ago
They could say it's irrelevant to the case. Her belief that she needed the abortion is not a defense of the doctor's conduct.
AlexanderTurok
1mo ago
I want to discuss a recent tweet:
The humor, I’m not sure if it’s intended, is that “Griggs v. Duke Republicans” are an almost entirely online phenomenon. They don’t have a mass of voting power in the real world. Republican politicians, to the extent they’re aware they exist, would be fine losing the few votes they have, many of which are locked in deep blue areas. They’re not serving in the Trump administration. Very few have actual influence on policymakers. Chris Rufo does. Richard Hanania, maybe a little.
The Roe v. Wade Republican is comfortable in the Republican coalition. He’s the type of guy nobody is surprised to learn votes Republican. The Griggs v. Duke Republican is cross-pressured; he’s white and male but also educated, irreligious, and urban. The Roe v. Wade Republican watched the Republican convention speeches. The Griggs v. Duke Republican didn’t because, deep down, he knows the speeches were not for him. It’s not really his party. But then he logs on to an online community of other Griggs v. Duke Republicans and fools himself into thinking people like him are a notable part of the Republican base.
Sometimes the Griggs v. Duke Republican is sufficiently disgusted by the low-class and religious portions of the Republican base that he angrily denounces it and becomes a centrist or even a left-winger. The Republican reaction is … nothing because they don’t even take any note of such people.
My message to Griggs v. Duke Republicans, from a Griggs v. Duke guy who used to be a Republican, is this. There is a difference between voting for a party and being part of that party’s coalition. Richard Spencer voted for Kamala but is not part of the Democratic coalition. You, Mr. Griggs v. Duke Republican, are not part of the Republican coalition. Maybe that will change someday. Maybe Griggs v. Duke Republicans will start running for office. Maybe you can be the change you want to see in the world and do that. But right now, you’re on the outside looking in.
AlexanderTurok
1mo ago
No, the Supreme Court insists that the doctor make a reasonable medical judgement that the medical exception applies. The doctor did not claim this; she claimed only a good faith belief that the exception applied. The original pleading goes into great detail why the plaintiff doesn't think requiring a "reasonable medical judgement" is a good standard, but the Supreme Court did not agree. The doctor could, of course, have -- without risk to herself -- asserted a "reasonable medical judgement" in the pleading.
Word games.
AlexanderTurok
1mo ago
"They also have the mother, who will tearfully testify about how excited her and her husband were when they got pregnant and how sick she got at the hospital and how terminating the pregnancy was the hardest decision of her life and how the defendant is a hero, etc."
What if the judge is hostile and decides to disallow that testimony?
AlexanderTurok
1mo ago
Even if this is true, so what? Texas isn't one of those places that believes in an inherent right to medical treatment. Freedom includes people who aren't you who do not wish to associate with you. Maybe if you need something from someone, you should either sit at the table with them and negotiate or else find a way to do without them, such as by training up pro-life doctors.
AlexanderTurok
1mo ago
A doctor says an abortion is medically necessary.
"Well, we have to have judges second-guessing those decisions, otherwise doctors would abuse the system."
A doctor won't say an abortion is medically necessary.
"Gotta defer to doctors and their medical expertise!"
AlexanderTurok
1mo ago
That seems like a "them" problem, unless there's some actual evidence of such prosecutions.
If you're in Texas and are a woman or have a wife, sister, or daughter, it sounds like a "you" problem.
AlexanderTurok
2mo ago
I'd say he'll lose maybe 1/100. The people who were bothered by stuff like that left the Trump train long ago and numerically there are not many of them.
AlexanderTurok
2mo ago
"The fentanyl dealer on the street is nearly universally considered a social malefactor, I doubt Tabarrok would defend this particular class of entrepeneur."
Legalization of drugs is a standard libertarian belief.
"If US big pharma is so great, why is US life-expectancy declining?"
It was declining due to covid and a bunch of people choosing to put fentanyl in their bodies. Many Americans choose to be fat. There was a time when individual responsibility was something conservatives believed in.
AlexanderTurok
2mo ago
In discussions of South Korea, I never see any of the proudly childless express any concern about what will happen to them in retirement. They seem to be implicitly assuming that someone else's kids will be paying their pensions.
AlexanderTurok
2mo ago
I don't know why the election has triggered a renewed gender war
It's the abortion issue, which is more Christianity v. secularism than men v. women, but is often conceived of as men v. women.
That DSL commenter is European.
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