AlexanderTurok
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AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
1d ago
To make a silly example, if Trump stopped deporting illegal El Salvadorian gangbanger wifebeaters
The woman went back to the man who allegedly abused her, resumed having sex with him, and doesn't think it's a big deal. I don't understand why internet people care so much.
AlexanderTurok
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6d ago
confidential informant
Very likely a criminal.
AlexanderTurok
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6d ago
gangster himself.
Pics or it didn't happen.
AlexanderTurok
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6d ago
NGL I'd still hate the "parents" more
Think a lot of anti-immigrant sentiment is rightists taking out their anger at blacks, Jews, feminists, and white liberals on illegal immigrants because the latter are a more socially acceptable target.
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
6d ago
Not true.
AlexanderTurok
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9d ago
HAT-BAT, taken to scale, would result in many "lesser" men not able to find wives. You could justify it eugenically, but the lesser men could just say "you want a premoral, survival-of-the-fittest world? Let's put aside morality and fight!"
Realistically, Musk's behavior won't scale, it'll just make pronatalism look low-class.
AlexanderTurok
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13d ago
I wouldn't worry too much about a "brain drain." It's telling that their go-to example of "brain drain" is a European who came to America and is considering returning. Here's what he says:
Now Die Dejean is applying for positions in Europe.
"I want to work wherever they allow me to do the research," said the scientist, who studies fish stocks to ensure tuna is being fished sustainably.
"I'm eagerly waiting for some of the things that are coming from the European Union...increasing the opportunities for scientists like me to come back," said Die Dejean, who was born in Spain but has spent most of his career in the U.S. and Australia.
Sounds to me like there aren't many such positions in Europe, he's holding out hope they create them. I've heard IRL from scientists that it's pretty difficult to get jobs - many wind up writing apps as a result. Maybe that's a failure of society, if so, it's not one that can be placed at Trump's feet. (I say this as someone who doesn't like Trump.) It's not just tuna researchers either, see this video about astrophysicists, which is clearly a market where the supply of astrophysicists far exceeds the number of astrophysics jobs society is willing to fund:
AlexanderTurok
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18d ago
Why don't you tell me an issue you think no-college, Fox-News watching boomers are wrong about?
AlexanderTurok
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19d ago
The mainstream media is untrustworthy and should be replaced with what, Catturd?
AlexanderTurok
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19d ago
Telling his voters not to vote by mail.
AlexanderTurok
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19d ago
Total -public, corporate, private - debt in 2000 was 28 trillion. Now it's 93 trillion.
Numbers not accounted for inflation don't mean much. Why is corporate debt a problem?
AlexanderTurok
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19d ago
Have you considered that maybe the Republicans are indeed dumb?
AlexanderTurok
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19d ago
I encountered a mentally ill homeless man ranting about Russia and Putin. I couldn't understand most of what he was saying but I'm sure he was on the Biden administration's payroll too.
AlexanderTurok
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19d ago
I do not see a way for either you or the author to argue that it is less of a problem for the previous uniparty regime. Afghanistan in particular and the GWOT generally seem like really good examples; for the Afghan war, we have the documents now and can confirm that the entire two decades of policy was founded entirely on lies, that no one ever actually had a plan, and that the entire procedure was built around concealing this fact to the public as extensively as possible to maintain the flow of resources and human lives. The more one listened to "the most informed about policy and current events, like journalists and academics," the worse one's fundamental understanding of that conflict would be.
The large majority of salt-of-the-earth no-college white people supported the Iraq war. The Iraq war should have reduced the confidence people put in the media and the CIA. (though not "the experts" in general) It should not lead one to adopt the attitude of many people here that the army of Fox News watching no-college boomers are never wrong on any issue.
AlexanderTurok
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19d ago
It also makes me wonder where the GOP can go when Trump finally kicks the bucket, a lot of candidates who try to emulate the man aren't doing well electorally. The electoral magic exists in Trump himself, not an idealogy.
Trump's genius is in combining working-class appeal with generally moderate politics in issues other than immigration and tariffs. But his biggest fans have a psychology inherently opposed to moderation and compromise. For instance, Trump said "My Administration will be great for women and their reproductive rights." The mini-Trumps would never say that. Even if they don't personally care much for "unborn children," giving their "enemies" even symbolic concessions is "cuckoldry" - totally opposed to their worldview.
There are many people whose politics are entirely based around tribal loyalty and cannot fathom anyone operating differently. So when they see someone agreeing that the mainstream media is right about issue X, they imagine that person must be getting on his knees and deep-throating the mainstream media, because that's what they do with Donald Trump. When shown evidence this isn't true, such as Hanania's right-wing views on crime or race and IQ, they just ignore it.
AlexanderTurok
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21d ago
uppose it gets to the point that their only option is to begin filling the vacancies left by the deportations. Isn't that just... wonderful? Isn't that exactly what Trump's base voted for?
I recall a lot about inflation, crime, and illegal immigration. I don't recall any complaints about fat obese people not working. Think people are projecting their own ideology onto the Trump campaign.
AlexanderTurok
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21d ago
Ending the handouts seems like a better way of dealing with that then wrecking the economy.
AlexanderTurok
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21d ago
To which my response is, very well! Then we shall all go without roofs. Now of course, people are capable of far more than you expect them to be once their backs are actually up against the wall. People will leap into action if there's no other choice. But, supposing he's right and it does turn out that no one answers the call, then we shall simply go without. A nation, a culture, a race that does not provide for itself, should go without.
Does your wife agree with this "go without roofs" thing? When the water's coming into your house, remind yourself of that core ethical commitment.
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
21d ago
I saw this tweet from BAP:
Yes and no. I have no strong opinion on these particular tariffs myself but there are many long time Trump poasters etc who think they’re a mistake and who are either not on X now or are afraid to speak up because they don’t want to bother with attaqs
https://x.com/bronzeagemantis/status/1907871856159272996
Makes me wonder if there's a right-wing equivalent of JournoList that's going to get leaked someday.
AlexanderTurok
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21d ago
"This website is a place for people who want to move past shady thinking and test their ideas in a court of people who don't all share the same biases."
AlexanderTurok
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24d ago
Much like with other entries in the genre of "advice for my enemies"
How is Greer your enemy?
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
24d ago
Scott Greer writes about the differences between the millennial "Online Right" and the Zoomer right:
The youth are primarily on TikTok and Instagram, two platforms which the Dissident Right has little presence on. The Online Right is a Twitter-based phenomenon. The youth prefer streaming and clips. The Online Right, by contrast, prefers text over video. The Online Right's content still centers around writing posts, while Zoomers obsess over videos. The Online Right mostly hates TikTok as either slop or a tool for Chinese subversion. Meanwhile, the youth love it.
Much of the big conservative content on TikTok would be mocked by the Online Right. Videos of black influencers proving that that Dems R The Real Racists get millions of views on there. It's mostly basic bitch conservatism that would get dunked on by the Dissident Right–if it were posted to Twitter. But it doesn't, and proves popular among right-leaning Zoomers.
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Most young Trump voters share more in common with FanDuel Americans. As I wrote last year of this group:
There are many things that blackpill right-wingers that don't upset FanDuel Americans. Eroding WASP norms and new ones that approve of visible tattoos and smoking weed in public? The FanDuel American doesn't know what a "WASP" is, doesn't mind tattoos, and smokes weed himself. Radically changing demographics that's making America less white? The FanDuel American doesn't care, brags about his black friends, and thinks diversity makes his favorite team better. Nobody going to church? The FanDuel American doesn't go either. Everyone wasting money on sports bets and OnlyFans? So does the FanDuel American.
The FanDuel American has some conservative instincts. He likes the free market. He supports the troops. He stands for the National Anthem. He doesn't list his pronouns.
But this isn't what he truly cares about. He cares about distractions, and he strives to make enough money to pursue them.
This is essentially the Richard Hanania low human capital theory. While Hanania screams it from the rooftops with the subtly of a hammer pounding on an I-beam, Greer packages it more carefully, reminding his readership that the tatted-up MMA guy podcast-ranting about 5G giving him cancer is not a historical part of the Right; the Right needn't tribalistically defend his antisocial behavior.
AlexanderTurok
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1mo ago
There were "make Hong Kong Great Britain Again" signs during the Hong Kong protests.
He's a college educated white man and college educated white men have moved away from the Republican Party over the last decade. See Hanania and Spencer for other examples. On the other hand, the Right has gained no-college whites like Tim Pool and Joe Rogan.
Maybe, instead of complaining about being betrayed, you could modify your political platform to make it more appealing to high-income, educated white people?
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