AlexanderTurok
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AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
3d ago
Scott Greer writes about the differences between the millennial "Online Right" and the Zoomer right:
The youth are primarily on TikTok and Instagram, two platforms which the Dissident Right has little presence on. The Online Right is a Twitter-based phenomenon. The youth prefer streaming and clips. The Online Right, by contrast, prefers text over video. The Online Right's content still centers around writing posts, while Zoomers obsess over videos. The Online Right mostly hates TikTok as either slop or a tool for Chinese subversion. Meanwhile, the youth love it.
Much of the big conservative content on TikTok would be mocked by the Online Right. Videos of black influencers proving that that Dems R The Real Racists get millions of views on there. It's mostly basic bitch conservatism that would get dunked on by the Dissident Right–if it were posted to Twitter. But it doesn't, and proves popular among right-leaning Zoomers.
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Most young Trump voters share more in common with FanDuel Americans. As I wrote last year of this group:
There are many things that blackpill right-wingers that don't upset FanDuel Americans. Eroding WASP norms and new ones that approve of visible tattoos and smoking weed in public? The FanDuel American doesn't know what a "WASP" is, doesn't mind tattoos, and smokes weed himself. Radically changing demographics that's making America less white? The FanDuel American doesn't care, brags about his black friends, and thinks diversity makes his favorite team better. Nobody going to church? The FanDuel American doesn't go either. Everyone wasting money on sports bets and OnlyFans? So does the FanDuel American.
The FanDuel American has some conservative instincts. He likes the free market. He supports the troops. He stands for the National Anthem. He doesn't list his pronouns.
But this isn't what he truly cares about. He cares about distractions, and he strives to make enough money to pursue them.
This is essentially the Richard Hanania low human capital theory. While Hanania screams it from the rooftops with the subtly of a hammer pounding on an I-beam, Greer packages it more carefully, reminding his readership that the tatted-up MMA guy podcast-ranting about 5G giving him cancer is not a historical part of the Right; the Right needn't tribalistically defend his antisocial behavior.
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
12d ago
There were "make Hong Kong Great Britain Again" signs during the Hong Kong protests.
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
12d ago
This is a post-national country.
Same can be said about the US.
AlexanderTurok
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12d ago
Because Trump said it.
AlexanderTurok
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13d ago
Don't recall saying they were.
AlexanderTurok
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15d ago
It's an indictment of white nationalism that they've done so little to help white immigrants.
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
15d ago
Are you serious? Blackmail is the most logical motivation behind having a media room which records powerful people having sex with children (which we know was happening)
How do "we" "know" this?
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
16d ago
we're expected to believe that Epstein and Maxwell's blackmail operation
What blackmail operation? Your theories are not facts.
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
16d ago
Jason Kessler wrote:
Lets start with the assumption that everyone who broke the law with Epstein should be prosecuted.
The call to "release the Epstein files!" is basically a desire to second guess prosecutors and form vigilante lynch mobs to do an "independent investigation."
Every innocent person unfortunate enough to have made contact with Epstein would have their lives ruined. Deranged gunmen like the Comet Pizza shooter would be showing up at their homes and harassing their families.
That is why they will never release those files unredacted.
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
16d ago
"Belonged to intelligence" relies on Vicky Ward's reporting that an un-named former senior White House official told her he said that. Ward is not exactly a credible source.
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
17d ago
The thing is, when you post provably false s*** like the 4% approval rating thing we discussed in the other thread, and then when called out on it you double down, that alienates smart people who care about the truth. For instance, here's what Steve Sailer said today:
It would be great if DOGE could distinguish who is doing useful boutique research on education and who is wasting taxpayer money. But it appears that DOGE doesn’t have time for that, much like DOGE doesn’t seem to have time for much else in the way of useful analysis.
On the other hand, every time the NYT dubiously asserts that Trump is about to do something stupid, Trump cultists dreams up all sorts of ideas why, actually, that would be a genius 4-D chess thing to do.
https://www.stevesailer.net/p/will-doge-cancel-naep
Seems like DOGE is burning its bridges with the very demographic it was supposed to appeal to, while maintaining the support of people who have never said a critical thing about Trump in their entire lives.
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
17d ago
nothing the bow-tied Buckleyites can do about it.
Hanania is a former white nationalist who wrote for Counter-Currents.
AlexanderTurok
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17d ago
It's particularly jarring because the GOP is now the party whose voters have lower average income.
https://www.cnn.com/election/2024/exit-polls/national-results/general/president/0
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
17d ago
If anything he shot himself in the foot switching from 'I'm a smart tech-right policy guy' to 'let me sneer at all the right-wing retards who are now running the country and are in a position to implement policies'. He's the contrarian rat that jumps on board the sinking ship. What a fool!
As I said in the last thread, when you change add stuff to your platform that didn't used to be there, some people who liked the old platform will decide they don't like the new platform and depart. Others will support ANYTHING the party does, because loyalty to their tribe is all that matters. What's the next thing the Tucker Carlson fans are going to embrace? Are they going to take issue with chlorinated swimming pools? Whatever it is, I'm sure a large proportion of people here will embrace, ignore, or sanewash it. Other people will decide they don't feel like being Republicans anymore and get accused of "jumping ship" for not changing their minds.
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
21d ago
attacking rightists for normalizing fat women is kinda meaningless, if both sides do it.
Such an annoying way to think...
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
21d ago
Agree with some of this. Having a self-actualizing career is very important in contemporary bourgeois society. This can be seen in the way the prestige of jobs is imperfectly correlated with income, being a college professor is higher status than being a restaurant manager even if the latter makes more money. But this part gets to a general problem I have with the Online Right:
The idea that people can not be college material is alien to this ethical framework. So is valuing family, religion or anything else over self actualization.
The American bourgeois has a lower rate of divorce and a significantly lower rate of bastardy than the working-class. One of the reasons high-class people don't want their kids to work at the nail factory is because the nail factory is full of people from unstable families for whom that behavior is normalized. Plus other pathologies like obesity, criminal records, etc.
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
22d ago
He's most famous for getting doxxed a while back:
Nail factory:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GkFn4c0WkAA7NyX?format=jpg&name=medium
170 pound woman:
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
22d ago
I feel like we're in the position the Left was with wokeness in 2004. They told themselves it's just some performative radicalism in the ivory tower, not impacting the real world. And then it went from too insignificant to comment on to too strong to suppress. Now they're wishing they had strangled the baby in the crib.
So I think it's worth talking about.
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
22d ago
We can add not owning stocks to the list of RW life advice that includes not going to college, working at the nail factory, marrying an 170 pound woman, dumpster diving for yogurt, and not getting vaccinated.
https://x.com/L0m3z/status/1899623568650145985
(Yeah I know he's "joking" but what's the joke?)
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
22d ago
Where was the "appeal to authority" in my post?
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
22d ago
The Irish and the Lithuanians and the Jews were definitely not white when they first got off the boats
Will this tired old myth never die?
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
22d ago
They're starting to remind me of native Americans. I do not mean that as a compliment.
Native Americans are indigenous. It used to be their land. And it's not anymore. We're here, get used to it.
Likewise, America was founded by white Christians. Today, they're 44% of the population and declining fast.[1] And that 44% includes "protect trans kids" mainline Protestants, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and others people like Walsh won't consider "real" Christians. Maybe 33% of the American population qualifies as "real" white Christians. And Matt Walsh tells this population they should not go to college,[2] checking out of positions of power and influence. A population of farmers and plumbers living in left-behind parts of the country, locked out of power, pining for the glory days when they ran the country and praying for supernatural deliverance, is this the vision that "nationalists" want?
Native American advocates will do a motte-and-bailey with "native Americans are the indigenous population of America" and "therefore they should get special privileges." Walshites motte-and-bailey with "white Christians founded America" and "therefore the remaining white Christians deserve political authority over the rest of America." Well, the rest of America isn't having it.
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
22d ago
Surely someone has told Trump!?
Why would anyone tell him?
Border state republicans take away Trump’s toys tariffs until he can play nicely?
It'll only take four in the Senate, three in the House, to end this nonsense. But after Jan 6, Republican politicians have accepted that the base will support Trump no matter what. They certainly won't turn against him over mere talk of a recession, and if the defectors can avert a recession, they'll have nothing to blame Trump for.
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
23d ago
Trump increased military spending in his first term.
How is Greer your enemy?
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