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Math didn't go so well. This is fine, since I don't necessarily want to be a Woman in STEM, but also very common among homeschoolers I know, even with engineer fathers. I think math just inherently requires more structure and pushing for a lot of teens than reading and writing do.
From the homeschoolers I've spoken with this seems quite common. Great outcomes in many different domains, but a real lack of mathematical maturity.
pairingheap
16m ago
It seems very clear that college education effects outcomes such as higher earnings.
This is not so clear. The earning difference between college graduates and non-graduates is clear, but whether it's the college education that's primarily responsible for that difference is questionable.
There is nothing inconsistent about being pro-life; this is simply a very progressive man dressing up his progressivism in the guise of Christian religion.
Not on its own, but few people are "pro-life" and nothing else. Very, very few people try to follow all of their beliefs to an "optimized" conclusion.
This is why no Catholic has ever decided to become a mass murderer and kill as many baptized infants as possible to maximize the number of people in Heaven. (Maybe the murderer is damning his own soul, but it's just one damned soul against hundreds or thousands of souls that might go astray and commit mortal sins if they're allowed to grow up. And in the end, if he can manage to truly be contrite about it, even he might end up in Heaven.)
It is also why no pro-life Catholic has tried to put together monetary funds to get hospice patients hooked up to as many machines to keep their body technically alive as possible. They're pro-life, but only up until a point. They have other values that trade off against their pro-life stance.
DradisPing
25m ago
or does already being in poverty cause the bad behaviors/poor schooling
We know it's the former. "Dignified poverty" where there a low incomes but still good behaviour has existed at various times. It tends not to last as children move to other cities. Plus the feds always see those spots as the perfect place to put a bunch of Somalis.
As for helping your children, teaching them to enjoy reading is very good. But the most important thing is their friends. Teens copy their peers. Childhood friendships often last for life.
So if you have infinite choice, I'd recommend sending them to Cupertino High School. The connections they make will carry them through life. They'll grow up imitating and internalizing the behaviours of high functioning white collar workers.
But fundamentally "one bad apple spoils the whole barrel" is true. Make sure your child has a friend group who is on the right track.
hydroacetylene
31m ago
That said, I’ve always understood James Martin to be in this camp.
Fr. James Martin is 100% serious and a true believer. He doesn't actually compromise on abortion, he just thinks gun control is an equivalently serious pro life issue. He's wrong about that, obviously. But he actually literally believes this. His response to criticism over closeness to democrats, because they support abortion, is not to try to write nuance into the abortion issue where none exists; it's 'both sides bad and democrats are the lesser of evils because XYZ'. Both he and his followers are Old, and the vision of the church he promotes is not generally very appealing to people who aren't already part of his bandwagon- either because of the liberalism or because of the Catholicism- but he is definitely a true believer Catholic. Progressive activist priests who aren't tend to leave the church.
If you are ever inclined to do related effortposts, I’d love to read about the dynamics (positive and negative) created by having the likes of Martin and Vigano in the same institutional church
Vigano is not actually part of the Catholic church. He has been excommunicated and no one disputes this, including Vigano himself. He has crossed lines that would have been associated with sedevacantism(a fringe phenomenon nobody likes, despite its popularity on DR twitter) prior to Vigano going on Alex Jones and is more or less associated with the SSPX resistance, a group kicked out of the SSPX for either being batshit crazy(the SSPX's story) and possibly child abusers(everyone else's story) or for criticizing the SSPX leadership for compromising with modernism(their story). The farthest-right segment of the church(which includes traditionalists, but also lots of people who think Vatican II/many associated things were ill-advised, but can't be fully reversed) is actually led by Cardinal Muller, whose red hat allows him to cause plenty of chaos if he so chooses. He has previously threatened to do so to veto the appointment of bishop Heiner Wilmer to the position of doctrinal chief and gotten away with it.
Pope Francis himself protects liberals and progressives as much so that he can play the two factions off of each other as out of ideological sympathies. He favors jesuits, who tend to be liberal, and fellow latin americans, who also tend liberal. But he seems to prefer moderates from both, and the college of cardinals retains a conservative plurality large enough to maintain a functional veto. Martin is a true believer in what he says, but he's very very careful about coloring inside the lines and not taken seriously as a threat due to the age of his followers(mostly old enough to have adult children who left the church over homosexuality, often their own, long enough ago for their parents to have accepted it as irreversible). Bishops are still promoted reasonably meritocratically, and simply due to the pool of seminary graduates ~20 years ago, are trending more conservative every year. Bright spots for the church in the first world are almost invariably driven by conservative leans and the natural alignment of the RCC is with the establishment right of whatever society it finds itself in(often in ostensibly non-political ways; the Catholic church will tend to drift into cultural and vaguely aesthetic/institutional alignment with the things establishment conservatives do. But also, the federalist society would not be so successful without Catholic schools, specifically. Trump's appointments trend really Catholic. The RCC is on the right for the forseeable future; becoming episcopalians 2.0 is simply not in the cards) and everyone knows it. There are(mostly older) progressive Catholics who find this confusing, and there are bubbles where progressive Catholicism dominates. But there's not a lot of doubt about the general direction. Are both sides willing to play dirty? Yes, they are. But it stays at a lower level. These are institutionalists who see gentlemanly behavior as very important; liberals know that setting a precedent for hardball will blow up in their faces and conservatives know that there's no real need to play hardball.
tradcaths have reacted to Francis’ papacy and the loss of the Vatican’s social role as a countercultural bulwark.
Tradcaths themselves mostly haven't. JPII may have been sympathetic and Benedict a frequent ally, but they were not our friends in the way Muller has reinvented himself as. Rather, the mainstream position among people whose opinions matter to SSPX and FSSP leadership(as an aside- the SSPX/FSSP split is overstated. They prefer to make a show about ignoring each other and most of the criticism is for realpolitik. Most FSSP priests recognize Lefebvre as a saint and most SSPX priests praise the orthodoxy of FSSP priests- all behind closed doors in both cases, of course) is to build parallel institutions which by merely existing create room in mainstream church institutions for sympathizers and fellow travelers to rise until they predominate, and this is viewed as a generational task by people who literally and unironically think in terms of generations, plural. And at least in the first world, this has delivered some results.
Explanations for pope Francis have centered around 'sometimes you get a bad pope(and he actually is bad at things other than doctrine)' and 'he lets liberal friends run amok but tends to refrain from endorsing their conclusions'. Traditional Catholics who actually matter simply do not think in terms of years or decades and so the current pope is viewed as a temporary and ineffectual roadblock.
Loquat
35m ago
Did you get to the part where you use the sentient hat to possess a T-Rex?* There's lots more stuff like that later on in the the game.
(*I'd say /r/brandnewsentence, but Mario Odyssey is old enough and popular enough that I'm certain others have independently invented that same sequence of words.)
Gaashk
43m ago
I was homeschooled, and... it depends. In general, I liked it. My mom is disposed to be a decent teacher, and went on to teach lower elementary in the public schools. I ended up very well educated in literature, because a Kierkegaard and Dostoyevsky book club is my parents' idea of a good time. Math didn't go so well. This is fine, since I don't necessarily want to be a Woman in STEM, but also very common among homeschoolers I know, even with engineer fathers. I think math just inherently requires more structure and pushing for a lot of teens than reading and writing do.
Hieronymus
1hr ago
Yes, by the religious left I mean what early twentieth century Protestants called modernism. (I think that contemporary Catholics had a different, broader definition of the word.) It’s what you get when you accept the tenets of secular progressivism and try to rebuild Christian practice on top of them. It’s not really Christian.
That said, I’ve always understood James Martin to be in this camp. Roman Catholic ecclesiology didn’t allow the fundamentalist-modernist controversy to take the form it did among Protestants, so the divide isn’t as obvious; at least that’s my take.
If you are ever inclined to do related effortposts, I’d love to read about the dynamics (positive and negative) created by having the likes of Martin and Vigano in the same institutional church, as well as how tradcaths have reacted to Francis’ papacy and the loss of the Vatican’s social role as a countercultural bulwark.
throwaway-7742
1hr ago
I haven't bought it, but it looks fun. Appropriately priced at $24.99 on Steam. It's a good way for indie developers to experiment with minigames and make a little money. Maybe put a fresh coat of paint on lesser known retro games.
A collection is gonna have its winners and losers. Vainger looks like one of the few that could make it on its own. Velgress looks lively. Seaside Drive looks polished. I'm curious about Valbrace and Grimstone.
The_Nybbler
Does not have a yacht
1hr ago
I can't think of a better example of a normie conservative man than someone who carves walnut gun stocks.
FirmWeird
Randomly Generated Reddit Username
1hr ago
Funny how the Biden administration says and does this while simultaneously pursuing federal charges to make sure that Luigi Mangione can get executed. The death penalty seemingly only applies when you attack important people, not regular citizens.
TequilaMockingbird
1hr ago
But how is this at all sustainable?
It isn't thats the secret. As for "are they just stupid?" The jury is still out.
hydroacetylene
2hr ago
All of this(the entire comment chain) is pointing to 'a fairly small part of the price of clothes is materials', which I think is actually the correct answer to the original question.
hydroacetylene
2hr ago
The app is using this as a loss leader so that you'll use delivery services costing four times as much when you're stoned at 2 AM with the munchies.
hydroacetylene
2hr ago
The pope specifically requested clemency for all of the people on death row in the US a week or two ago. Biden excluding three people is not in compliance with that request, as I think you note.
It is I think worth noting that 1) the anti-death penalty turn in the Catholic church is controversial, to say the least and 2) Biden has shown no signs of consistent Catholic principles, even abortion aside. He is not some kind of James Martin SJ-style consistent leftyCath warrior.
MaiqTheTrue
Renrijra Krin
2hr ago
I mean yes they happen fairly regularly, but having a high fatality accident every time the us or her Allies get involved in a battle does seem somewhat provocative to me.
hydroacetylene
2hr ago
There's actually a pretty small minority of US Catholics who agree that opposition to the death penalty is necessary to be a good Catholic, or who oppose the death penalty for that reason. I suppose it's possible Biden is in that category, but the odds are against him being some sort of principled Catholic left type.
hydroacetylene
2hr ago
There is an actual religious left- EG James Martin- but it usually doesn't openly push against the pro-life movement. This guy reads more like a progressive wearing Christianity as a skinsuit(and to be fair, a the UMC certainly has a reputation for being worn as a skinsuit by whoever feels the need to wear a Christian skinsuit that week).
hydroacetylene
2hr ago
There's probably a dynamic where better teachers like teaching better students, and will move to the charter or private or high income schools disproportionately.
R/teachers indicates that there's a lot of this going on, but how much of an effect 'better teachers' actually has seems very up in the air. Like part of Catholic school's secret sauce is surely that if you just cannot behave you are asked to leave(nicely at first, but to be reframed as Not A Request if needed) and a single misbehaving student can ruin things for everyone. But they also have better teachers(more experienced mostly, but also higher percentage of in-subject graduate degrees for high school teachers) and better instructional curricula(phonics over whole word etc). I'm not sure you can really distinguish the two effects, either- experienced teachers with masters degrees in their subjects strongly prefer teaching positions which exclude the bottom quintile as students.
hydroacetylene
2hr ago
We live in a society with substantial economic mobility. Ergo, find out what rich people's parents did and copy them.
Now, is 'k-12 schools higher quality' the effective part? I doubt it. While K-12 schools in rich neighborhoods are probably higher quality, that's because teachers would prefer to work there(and they don't beat Catholic schools in any case). I suspect that K-12 schools for rich kids help the kids stay rich over the long term mostly by controlling their peer group at an age when peer pressure leads people to do stupid things.
TIRM
2hr ago
Point taken about the lack of profit motive letting government agencies pursue ideological goals rather than finding ways to server customers while making a profit.
Do you think this public option will refuse to treat me because I own guns and eat meat? What do you think they'll do, have an ideological test to be allowed to buy in and get their medical care?
Esseintes
Que sçay-je?
2hr ago
best advantage possible
optimal school district and educational system
Home and homeschool.
This is heavily colored by my own experiences but barring getting your kids into a really good K-12 system I don't think you can beat homeschooling for purely educational outcomes. With the caveat that at least one of the parents is going to need to be heavily involved in running the show, at least during the early years up until middle school. Once you get to that point if your kids are motivated you can basically go autopilot, and once they hit 11th grade early college programs are a popular option.
One more caveat, extracurriculars that get your kids involved with peers and mentors outside the home are going to be critical for obvious reasons.
TIRM
3hr ago
Insurance companies fucking with normie conservative men? I think not. A select few extreme wrongthinkers have debanked. The significant minority of Americans who are right leaning men have bank accounts and health insurance like everyone else.
I am disturbed by weaponized debanking such as the Canadian trucker protestors' accounts getting frozen and Operation Chokepoint. But it is very small in magnitude and as-of-yet almost vanishingly rare. As a prediction of risk: this is a very low risk issue. I'm not particularly worried about losing my health insurance because I build ARs.
I mean, I certainly think people on the other side of the culture war make rhetorically strong points that are likely to resonate with other people, but I don't know if that ever "surprises" me.
More often, I find myself disappointed with the zingers people on "my side" are making, even if they make for good propaganda.
I'm slowly coming to the view that the only "legitimate" way to argue with another person is to engage with their "highest" human self as far as possible, and not to use cheap tricks. I heard about a friend trying to reach their anti-covid-vaccine parents, who had been talked into that position by Facebook video drivel, and that friend tried everything but found the most success in just sending pro-covid-vaccine Facebook video drivel. I suppose if all you care about is manipulating your parents to get a vaccine, because you genuinely think that it is best for them and for society, you might be able to justify that to yourself, but I felt a sense of discomfort with it.
I don't just want to find the right psychological levers to make other people believe what I want them to believe. I want to convince the human in them that what I believe is the case - or to similarly be convinced that I am wrong.
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