Fruck
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Fruck is just this guy, you know?
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Fruck
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3d ago
The Wikipedia page says the repairman jack series restarted with Legacies - should I read The Tomb first or just start at Legacies?
Fruck
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3d ago
Bough
Though
Cough
Only the English or madmen would make it so none of these words rhyme.
Fruck
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3d ago
It might be my love/hate relationship with purple prose, but I think the Chinese language excels at flowery descriptions.
Fruck
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4d ago
Would Journey to the West be Xianxia? Monkey is fairly constrained in it, but he is the equal of heaven (I know they give him the title as a joke, but it's accurate, they can't beat him and he can't beat them) but he isn't really a match for Buddha, dropping a mountain on him only traps him for 500 years, he can look like anyone or anything, and he can pluck hairs from his body and make them identical copies of himself. Monkey's goal though, having achieved immortality already, is to gain humanity, which he learns his burgeoning omnipotence is an impediment to. I've heard it described as wuxia before, after reading your description it seems like it could go either way.
Fruck
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4d ago
I know, I just know about that ridiculous industry so I wanted to build on your comment. I tried to write it so it would seem more like an addition than a correction, but I failed.
Fruck
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4d ago
Flowers are an insane business, so it's flower wholesalers actually, usually as a way to protect their laundering operations. There are a couple of florists, but most florists are the female version of model train enthusiasts, and their shops act as tax write offs for their husbands.
Fruck
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4d ago
Lol my sister and her husband were like that when they had their second kid. I lived with them at the time and one night they came to me very excited, because they had just watched The Endless and they just knew I was going to love it! I smiled at my sister and gave her a hug and explained that yes I did love it, which is why I gave it to them to watch three months ago.
I think it means you have your priorities straight.
Fruck
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5d ago
I think it pretty much had to happen in gaming. Gaming provides a nexus of necessary factors - gamers had huge overlap with the very online, and indeed were comprised in part of people who had been using the internet for a very long time. Gaming draws logic oriented personality types and trained them pavlov style to employ it. And it contained a large population of people who were specifically interested in escaping modern reality. So when the worthless pieces of shit that passed for journalists at the time told them to stop using the internet for its primary purpose - communication - for completely nonsensical reasons, and they were evil if they just wanted to read about vidya, they understandably lost their shit.
Fruck
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5d ago
Excellently said. I would also like to note that the reason I immediately went full ball treating him like a crypto leftist is in response to his framing. I don't have the wherewithal to explain such things though so I moderated towards the centre.
Fruck
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5d ago
I'm sure there were people saying memes got Trump elected, like people saw him shopped as God emperor and were overcome with the need to vote for him, because the internet is hilarious. But there is a defensible version of that claim I think, which is that Trump's meme game won him the election. But by that I mean his intuitive understanding of the zeitgeist and the various thoughts and emotions that were being ignored by the establishment.
Fruck
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5d ago
GEN X GET NOTHING. Just for that we're taking the eighties off them and giving it to the millenials.
Fruck
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5d ago
Fruck
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5d ago
It's just YET ANOTHER amazing coincidence that negatively affects Trump huh? It's a good thing people don't have agency or we'd have to wonder about the motives of the people involved in these coincidences. We might ask why, the very first time anyone attempted to kill Trump, the first guy to give it a shot is the world's most opsec responsible teen with no social media presence they can find except some small things suggesting NO MOTIVE! Well that's unfortunate Mr Trump, so sorry you attract lunatics! How did such a green assassin even get to take off the shot though? Because he was up against agents just as green! As a tangent, did you know the ss had been maliciously complying with Trump throughout the campaign? They repeatedly refused to provide him with proper security, and the Butler rally was no different - they forgot to bring enough comms, so they had zero contact with local police. Of course, that doesn't really matter since members of the public were telling them about Crooks and THEY JUST FUCKING IGNORED THEM.
Like I said, you can call it all coincidental incompetence, but I would dispute which of us is being astoundingly stupid if you did. I don't mean they are hyper powerful, I mean that some key players, particularly in leadership, are compromised. After all, I'm told Trump was so hateable a third of the country would be happy with him dead, surely that includes some senior staff at the secret service. So they meet the minimum requirements for service, and mysterious coincidences just keep interrupting the work flow, no one is to blame for the lack of radios, no one is to blame for the counter snipers not being put on counter sniper detail, and so on and so on.
Nope. Three times is enemy action.
Fruck
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5d ago
It's a bit sad when you think about it - the greatest generation got world war 2, the boomers got the free love revolution, and millenials got... gamergate. (Gen x get nothing, as is tradition.)
Fruck
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5d ago
I think my hobby horse and tribal "enemies" somehow made firefighting less effective. How did you write level before surface in the last sentence? It's breaking my brain. Did you construct this post with the cut-up method?
Fruck
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5d ago
Huh this is a puzzle to untangle. If you have looked into the Butler shooting and not trusted the media and you aren't a crypto leftist or unable to speak English, then claiming the secret service successfully protected Trump is truly comical. And hey, the FBI successfully saved Gretchen Whitmer yeah? What a success!
Moving on, I was indeed beginning to suspect you were a crypto leftist. Turning that tweet into the incipient rise of fascism is that fucking crazy in my view. But my original image of you is as someone on the outskirts of the pmc class who sees centrism as a useful heuristic for navigating reality. Which is to say that you at the very least tolerate the progressive status quo, you just want it to be less intrusive. I view the progressive status quo as the civilisational equivalent of dating a girl with borderline personality disorder.
I can see how this is unfair to you, but you have to understand I've already lived through half a decade of monthly 'boy I was all on board the maga train at first but this latest tweet is terrifying' posts and tweets. Beyond that I really think you should wait until Trump has at least one disaster under his belt before you start worrying. On reflection though I was imprecise with my language, instead of saying that you trust the media, what I should have said is that you don't distrust the media. And if you think you do, you don't do it enough. Until your first instinct when you read or hear anything on the news or reddit or Facebook or X etc is to call bullshit, you don't distrust the media enough.
Fruck
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6d ago
If Trump didn't turn his head at the exact second he did, he'd be dead now. Call it luck, call it coincidence, call it providence, it wasn't incompetence that saved Trump that day. You can, if you are naive or lying, claim incompetence put him in that position, which is exactly why pretending to be retarded has been such an integral strategy for the deep state. And it is also why the lead 'counter sniper' in Trump's SS detail was two years into his career, wasn't on counter sniper detail, and forgot his radio. And why that chubby cutie was playing hot potato with her gun. And why they blamed the local police. And every other insane detail from that fiasco.
As for the progressive status quo, it's because you keep buying into this ridiculous hysteria despite a decade of fake news declaring every saucy tweet Trump fires off the end of America and democracy. And never mind that the people we supposedly put in charge of promoting America and democracy abroad were primarily lining their own pockets but also helping fund groups that literally fucking hate America and democracy. And you don't mind it, because the media, which you inexplicably still trust, tells you it's just defunding trans operas and aids cures and you probably can't fix it anyway. You have to recognise by now that you are being manipulated. I mean how can you read the motte, read posts by people like @WhiningCoil and @jeroboam and me and not realise that "He who saves his Country does not violate any Law." is a blatant appeal to red tribe values, in the same category as 'The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time' and '1776 WILL COMMENCE AGAIN'?
Edit: edited out a cheap shot
Turns out that there is no deep state waiting with sharp fangs and CIA assassins to stop the orange man as soon as he tries to actually do anything that hurts the Blob.
Jesus Christ. So unless the spooks succeed they don't exist, even if the last year has just been incident after incident proving they exist. Even if we now have plenty of evidence of the deep state and espionage shenanigans, the media said this is different so let's get scared for America again! Progressive politics just let a large swathe of California burn to the ground and the media told us blaming politicians was the height of rudeness, but Trump said something typically hyperbolic, that is both appealing to red tribe sensibilities and and agitating to blue tribe sensibilities so let's all lose our minds like msnbc suggests! Bel is right, you can call yourself a centrist, but the only answer you will accept is the progressive status quo.
Edit: fixed a link
Fruck
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6d ago
Rasputin's presence at court was toxic, as he seduced the wives of many high ranking people.
That was the thing about Rasputin - I've heard it said he could preach the bible like a preacher, full of ecstasy and fire. But he also was the kind of teacher females would desire.
Fruck
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6d ago
And wasn't Oscar Wilde imprisoned because he sullied the marquess of queensbury's lad? Maybe it's just the height and age and my own ignorance of gay customs but I assumed Wilde was the top. Unless he was a power bottom.
Fruck
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7d ago
Absolutely do a breakdown! Very niche drama from a particular subculture is the best kind.
Did you mean to write that you weren't a fan of his and I'm just parsing it poorly or did you succumb to fat finger syndrome like a lot of people today (I know I have, but I also noticed the insulting tax breaks and some other minor flubs)
Fruck
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8d ago
So are you saying that the majority of the male feminists you knew turned out to be sex pests?
No they all stopped calling themselves feminists. One of them told me it was specifically because of the mfsp issue. But there was a joke at the time I'm sure you've heard - "of course I'm a feminist, I want to get laid bro". That joke stopped getting play shortly after the mfsp issue arose.
I just wrote about all the theories that both feminists and anti-feminists present as to why "all these male feminists keep turning out to be sex pests," and why I think they are basically Chinese robber fallacies. Unless you have some stronger evidence. It's not about my biases (because you are wrong about them). It's because there isn't really any evidence that I am aware of that male feminists are more likely to be sex pests (or that sex pests are more likely to be male feminists).
You wrote:
I doubt male feminists are more (or less) predatory in general, though. It's just when a particularly famous one (like Neil Gaiman or Joss Whedon) is found sticking his dick in someone he shouldn't have, it's broadcast widely because (a) they're famous! and (b) given their loud, performative feminism, which annoys anti-feminists, of course the latter will delight in crowing about their downfall and holding them up as a "typical" male feminist when in fact they are not.
That is the theory you put forward in the just so format. You have no evidence for it. Your biases led you to proclaim that "given their loud, performative feminism, of course the latter will delight in crowing about their downfall etc." with the exact same weight and force as the anti-woke said "of course they're predators etc." You start from the position the number of mfsps don't exceed the number of regular sps and once you hit upon an answer that flatters your biases you stop, just like the anti-woke do when they go 'of course he was just a predator the whole time'.
I thought that was the point you were making originally, that we're all held hostage to our biases, by setting up a link between flattered biases and of course arguments and then using that exact same structure in earnest, like an irony double dip or something. But if you didn't do it on purpose to make a point, then by your own reasoning either your biases are flattered by that of course argument or the first half of your post is just nonsense with no explanatory power. I don't think that's the case. If you would like to lay out your biases I can reassess, but if you are going to continue to be vague and secretive about them for no reason I assume I'm right.
Fruck
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8d ago
I think you are at the very least negatively predisposed to the anti-woke, but I am glad that wasn't the point you were making. I base this on your immediate recognition of the motivated reasoning used by the anti woke re mfsps -
of course they're predators; of course their feminism is performative; of course they don't actually believe what they're saying and it's just another tactic to get into women's pants; of course they act just like any other man and delude themselves that being a "feminist" absolves them."
coupled with the motivated reasoning you employ in your final sentence
of course the latter will delight in crowing about their downfall and holding them up as a "typical" male feminist when in fact they are not."
You say that based on no more evidence than the anti-woke say 'hey why do all these male feminists keep turning out to be sex pests?' but it must flatter your biases as you don't look any deeper.
If as it appears there is no data available on this, if for some reason academia are willing to write up thousands of studies on heteronormativity and androphilia and black feminism and queer theory, but are entirely incurious as to the intersection of male feminism and sex pestery, then all we can learn about are each other's biases, since we lack any evidence to change each other's minds.
As one of the anti-woke, I will tell you that I didn't latch onto the mfsp stereotype to explain why there must be something wrong with a man who'd embrace feminism - I do have some friends like that, but before the meme I thought male feminists were sycophantic, sanctimonious and misled but trying their best like everyone else. At that time, pretty much every man I knew called himself a male feminist. It was noticing how my pattern recognition system for believing stories about sex pestery kept getting tripped up if the accused was a male feminist that made the meme resonate.
Which is definitely bias, but informative bias imo which is why I call mfsp a stereotype rather than a just so story. I would do the same for your of course statement up there - I don't know think it's wholly accurate, but I think it points in the the direction of the truth, recency bias definitely plays a part. Reasoning from biases is never entirely accurate and only really works on these macro scales at all, but it's more realistic and useful than assuming we can't know anything without scientific evidence.
Hey, there's a zoomer trend we should talk about. Every zoomer always describes any sex they had as awful. They were terrible, their partner was terrible, it was just generally miserable and sticky and depressing. What's that about? I assumed it was memetic drift from not bragging about having sex, or that maybe the loss of the sacred aspect of sex has made it all seem very vulgar.
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