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naraburns  nihil supernum  1yr ago (text post)   Edited 1yr ago   5996 thread views

Quality Contributions Report for January 2023

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This month we have another special AAQC recognition for @drmanhattan16. This readthrough of Helen Joyce’s Trans: When Ideology Meets Reality garnered several AAQC nominations throughout the month:

Part 1 – The History of Transgenderism

Part 2 – The Causes and Rationalization of Transgenderism

Part 3 – How Transgenderism Harms Women And Children

Part 4 – How Transgenderism Took Over Institutions And How Some Women Are Fighting Back

Part 5 – Conclusion and Discussion

Now: on with the show!

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@Chrisprattalpharaptr:

@DaseindustriesLtd:

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@ymeskhout:

@aiislove:

@faul_sname:

@throwaway20230125:

Contributions for the week of December 26, 2022

@FiveHourMarathon:

@dr_analog:

Contributions for the week of January 2, 2023

@FiveHourMarathon:

@Rov_Scam:

@JhanicManifold:

@screye:

@problem_redditor:

@veqq:

@daezor:

@LacklustreFriend:

Contributions for the week of January 9, 2023

@naraburns:

@huadpe:

@Stefferi:

@FCfromSSC:

@DaseindustriesLtd:

@Dean:

Contributions for the week of January 16, 2023

@Dean:

@ControlsFreak:

@Stefferi:

@DuplexFields:

@ymeskhout:

@strappingfrequent:

@doglatine:

Contributions for the week of January 23, 2023

@gattsuru:

@TracingWoodgrains:

@arjin_ferman:

@vorpa-glavo:

@Amadan:

Contributions for the week of January 30, 2023

@gattsuru:

@TracingWoodgrains:

@DaseindustriesLtd:

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I don't even assert that my opinions are objectively correct

my post reflects the way I see things

I think that this is why no one critically engaged your post for the first week. People objected only after it got listed as a quality contribution. Once that happened things were different. According to naraburns, the top two curation criteria are Did I learn something from this post? and Are others likely to learn something from it? And that was the problem: people were learning things from a post that was based on opinion- a post that had had no critical responses at all to challenge it nor any context setting up your, umm, interesting psychological uniqueness. If someone had said, "Here is an interesting example of how someone with fearful-avoidant attachment orientation views gay relationships" then we would have had a great post. But no such context was given.

I don't personally see most of the things in either of your posts as being informed by experience but rather as being informed by a more naive worldview

I provided something better than experience: I provided evidence in the form of cultural words and phrases like "power bottom" which people have heard that support my point. There are more like "Bossy bottom". You can buy shirts and pillows with that written on them. Those wouldn't exist if your worldview was correct. I also described emergent phenomena in Grindr and Hinge. You must have ignored all of this in order to assert that our posts are informed not by experience but naivete.

(continued from previous sentence) that serves to paper over the less comfortable parts of the homosexual experience that many people have to live with.

Seeing as the context here isn't conservative countries, I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. Based on your other post I assume that you mean bottoming and being submissive. I also don't know what "many people" is. With respect, this is pretty strongly reading as internalized homophobia. You've already hit a few of the things on that list and I don't know you very well.

I think that your framing of the three concepts (position, activeness and dom/sub) as well as the rest of your and @gattsuru's comments are characteristic of being colored by experiences specific to one moment in time in one geographic region (namely the present day USA/Western Europe or somewhere with massive US/Anglosphere influence) much more than mine are.

Except for the last five words of that sentence I absolutely agree! Both of our worldviews are common in particular places and times on Earth. So the important question is Is someone right? And if so, who is right? First we need to know the question. @curiousagain's post here uses some particular words like root cause, parasites, genetic birth order, thirst, testosterone, beards, body hair, muscle mass, aggressive, and violent. It is obvious that the context of the question is innate human characteristics devoid of as much outside societal influence as possible. So where should we look in order to see how gay people live when left to their own devices? When they are free to live as they want and let their culture develop free of outside pressure and influence as much as currently possible? The answer to that is obvious: the anglosphere.

What if we completely ignore the context of the question and say, 'In any context or location, how do gays want to live?' The answer to that, too, is closer to the way gays live in the anglosphere than the way they live outside of it. The way gays in the U.S. live today certainly isn't the 'final form' but it is closer to it than in the UAE. I strongly believe that the only reason to feel involuntarily "degraded" by bottoming is if you are taught to feel that way. It isn't the default. That means that as middle eastern and other cultures become more accepting of gays, they'll eventually start viewing position, activeness, and dominance with my nuance rather than as one concept with your lack of nuance.

I think that homosexual relationships in Turkey and the UAE, for example, help illuminate homosexual relationships everywhere.

I'm all ears. Also the goalposts seem to be on the move.

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