ArjinFerman
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ArjinFerman
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3hr ago
Some comedians were complaining about how the world is impossible to parody nowadays, but this is taking it to a whole new level. I mean... I can keep adding layers, but it's not going to push it from "real news" to satire...
ArjinFerman
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9hr ago
Your posts are great. They're too advanced for to interact with beyond upvoting or AAQCing, but I love reading them.
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1d ago
It's not like there isn't room to criticize past societies, but I don't get the whole equality angle. Even feminists don't want equality.
ArjinFerman
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1d ago
It's like we have become allergic to actual news or something.
Sort of. There's a few reasons for it:
- Seen it all before.
- The intro to the thread explicitly discourages "look at what these people did" posts
- After nearly a decade of commenting on this sort of stuff, I don't think there's a lot more to be said about any of it.
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1d ago
This came off wrong... I meant "embrace Davos conspiracy theories"....
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1d ago
It's been as while since I was into econ, so I'll probably butcher some of these ideas, but some brilliant soul had the idea that the best way to model the behavior of individual companies is to a assume their actions can have no impact on supply, demand, employment or any broader trend. They're scarcely more than amoebas in the ocean, driven by forces far beyond their comprehension, let alone their ability to influence them. It is this form of analysis, a vain attempt to present itself of as rational, that I think is the cope, and it's probably worse in politics than it was in economics.
The situation circa 2010 was uniquely suited to a libertarian opposition.
I don't see how that explains anything. It's not like the move away from libertarianism was primarily motivated by the opposition to the left, which is still extremely hostile to it. It was a repudiation of the neocon agenda first. To the extent it went against libertarianism, it was focused on economics, and to the extent that was different from what the establishment of either party wanted to do, it boiled down to the opposition immigration and free trade. Even after Trump took power, he did remarkably little to exercise it in order to implement a cultural agenda. At the tail end of his presidency we started seeing some executive orders that would herald the type of opposition we see coming from DeSantis and Abbot, but they came so late that Biden repealed them before they could have any impact.
In my opinion this shows that his timeline is mostly correct, and the fact that DeSantis and Abbot are being singled out for criticism shows they're doing something different from the other Republican governors.
"The right realizing that they were at war", might not be the right explanation for what we're seeing, but at least it's an explanation. I still don't see your argument as anything more than a restatement of the fact that the right moved away from libertarianism.
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1d ago
My impression is that they don't have enough mana to pull off anything like that this year.
ArjinFerman
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1d ago
I think what you’re observing is better explained by the libertarian wing receding from its high-water mark during Obama’s presidency.
I don't see how that's an explanation rather than a restatement of the original observation.
ArjinFerman
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2d ago
Sure. I don't really care about net votes, but I do care about the opinion of particular people. I used to be on a forum with public upvotes, I think it was pretty cool.
ArjinFerman
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2d ago
Why should they be?
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2d ago
All of that's fine, but check out the linked 4chan thread, there's clearly a whole bunch of people getting the hots for her just due to the voice.
ArjinFerman
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2d ago
there's no fucking shot that female voice is not intentional
also @self_made_human, I have no idea what you lot are on about, she sounds fake as fuck.
Anyway, can't believe anyone gave credence to Yud and the Rats, and their convoluted AGI X-risk scenarios, when the end of the human race is clearly going to come from slightly more sophisticated chatbots turning everyone into volcels.
ArjinFerman
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2d ago
Sorry didn't see the other comment. Still, I don't see how wokeness isn't just about tolerating overrepresentation. The Chinese deal at least gives me pause, if you offered me the Russian one, I wouldn't even bat an eye.
ArjinFerman
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2d ago
If the policy was time-limited like in China, sure.
It is simply indisputable that China is more leftist about this kind of thing than the US
We were talking about wokism, not leftism.
Also note how you completely dropped Russia from your argument.
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2d ago
Reject white nationalism.
Embrace Davos conspiracies.
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2d ago
I could imagine it of there was a billion Americans, and it came with none of the self-flagellation. Sorry but there just is no comparison between the two approaches.
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3d ago
Do their military contractors have bizarre struggle sessions over Han / Russian privilege? Do their major corporations tell workers to be less Han / Russian?
If not then this is just cope.
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5d ago
People just get sick of getting downvoted and unable to post in real time
You've been shitposting here from day one, dude.
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7d ago
Nybbler would declare that this is, in fact, changing the culture of people who mass produce end-use consumer goods. That this is the only way, that we have to change their culture. If that is required, I am willing to do it.
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7d ago
Please specify which of the above you disagree with.
I disagree with your constant immature behavior. The deliberate exaggeration of your opponent's views even as you do the same the same to them. Accusing others of lying about your views even as you are lying about your own views. I don't particularly like the constant deflections either.
Now that you have discovered that your proposal will destroy a culture (as determined by Nybbler), are you willing to pursue it?
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Yes.
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What the hell does Nybbler's opinion of my views have to do with my willingness to pursue the solution I proposed?
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You are, again, deliberately misrepresenting his views.
This is not what I have said. Not even remotely. I would be perfectly happy with actions that don't end all of tinkering. I would prefer them!
And you have also explicitly said that if actions that would not end all tinkering are not enough, you would end all tinkering. You may prefer less drastic solutions, but if you are open to the possibility of ending all tinkering, then I have described your views 100% correctly.
We can move this to the other thread, because this was your solution.
Stop. I only brought this up as evidence that I have correctly characterized your views. Stop shifting your the responsibility for your responses on Nybbler, you're the one that said this.
but first let's see if you're willing to proceed with your own solution.
What the hell is that supposed to mean? I'm not the Nybbler. It is, in fact, my solution, so yes I'm willing to proceed with it. But I'm not willing to work with someone who's open to the option of abolishing all tinkering.
ArjinFerman
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7d ago
I'm not offended, I just think your behavior is immature, and it's bizarre you expect a response that is not like-for-like. One of your objections early on in our exchange was:
Some folks have quadrupled down on this hyperbolic claim, and are now claiming that I am making a hyperbolic reverse claim - that regulation cannot possibly impact innovation in any way. This is a bullshit strawman.
I don't understand what's wrong with that from your point of view. You love doing that shit yourself, so just let others do it as well.
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7d ago
Again, explain to me, why are you expecting a reasonable response if this is how you interact with people?
I don't know what you mean by this. What is "the trivial solution"?
Whatever you meant when you said "(and by the way, we can do so trivially)".
I am not injured in any such way. I explicitly presented the value of stopping the deluge of trivially-hackable devices with default passwords as a terminal value. You're just really off the mark.
I think you're being rather coy about it. When you tell me things like:
If you want to characterize any version of "we need to fix this problem (and by the way, we can do so trivially)" as being "my way or the highway", I think this is just a fully-general argument against fixing any problems ever, even the most trivial ones.
That means you're proposing a trivially simple fix, and consider me to be stubbornly and unreasonably standing in their way. That does not come off, "default passwords must be purged from the face of the Earth, even if it means the end of all tinkering". You do say the latter when someone talks to you for a bit, but this is after posts and posts of portraying anyone that objects as unreasonable and hyperbolic.
I actually explicitly said that I would consider all possible ideas, and that I was even open to the possibility that all options genuinely have too many demerits to implement. Literally in the comment you were just replying to. Please don't lie about what I've said.
You're the one lying about what you've said:
Nybbler would declare that this is, in fact, changing the culture of people who mass produce end-use consumer goods. That this is the only way, that we have to change their culture. If that is required, I am willing to do it.
You were literally explaining to me how getting rid of default passwords is a terminal values of yours just a moment ago. What are you even doing?
And outliers to your outliers. There are high-fertility subgroups even in modernity-struck countries.
Personally I think the solution is pretty simple, just do this in reverse.
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