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naraburns  nihil supernum  3d ago (text post)   3301 thread views

Quality Contributions Report for January 2025

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@George_E_Hale:

@problem_redditor:

@thejdizzler:

@barristan_selmy:

@coffee_enjoyer:

@recovering_rationaleist:

Contributions for the week of December 30, 2024

@Dean:

@naraburns:

@ControlsFreak:

@cjet79:

@Throwaway05:

Contributions for the week of January 6, 2025

@self_made_human:

@jeroboam:

@FiveHourMarathon:

@ArjinFerman:

@jake:

@netstack:

Contributions for the week of January 13, 2025

@gorge:

@FiveHourMarathon:

@faceh:

@hooser:

@Rov_Scam:

Contributions for the week of January 20, 2025

@NelsonRushton:

@WandererintheWilderness:

@Hoffmeister25:

@Dean:

@FCfromSSC:

@DaseindustriesLtd:

@naraburns:

Contributions for the week of January 27, 2025

@seven:

@felis-parenthesis:

@NelsonRushton:

@jeroboam:

@Corvos:

@SteveAgain:

@RenOS:

@HonoriaWinchester:

@Rov_Scam:

@Capital_Room:

@gorge:

@Tanista:

@Amadan:

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It's paywalled, but Noah Smith wrote an article saying we don't know how to control TFR.

Yeah, sorry, he didn't get to the point within the free preview.

I'm hesitant to read too much into within-country correlations with conservative culture, due to the possibility that the correlation isn't stable over the timescales needed to have explanatory value.

Sounds like an arbitrary dismissal of evidence that doesn't go your way. We don't know if any of the discussed phenomena are stable on these time-scales.

What I meant was that it was my interpretation of what the comment implied and one counter-example.

The most straight-forward interpretation is that the last 60 years has seen us turn away from sexual mores that have been a part of any stable civilization that managed to get anywhere. Another reasonable interpretation is "we sunk to lows not seen in 100K years". This would still leave you with many things to criticize, as I don't think we quite reached the levels of ancient Rome, but it would be a reasonable interpretation given what he said. "The 50's in the US were the pinnacle of human sexual mores" seems to literally come out of nowhere.

Yeah, sorry, he didn't get to the point within the free preview.

Yeah, "We don't know, because..." take more words than "We do know, and..."

Sounds like an arbitrary dismissal of evidence that doesn't go your way. We don't know if any of the discussed phenomena are stable on these time-scales.

Or I just don't think there's sufficient evidence.

The most straight-forward interpretation is that the last 60 years has seen us turn away from sexual mores that have been a part of any stable civilization that managed to get anywhere.

Repeating that you think my interpretation was wrong won't get you a better explanation of what my interpretation was.

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