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Hard time?! Can you name even one right-winger not bending over and taking a hard woke tool in his ass?! There is no escape!!!
Rittenhouse.
He will be dead before the next inauguration.
Shall we bet?
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Rittenhouse has bent the knee but even if he hadn't, we're not that far gone yet.
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Do you actually believe that? Your whole post history here seems to me to be basically delusional histrionics, but I can't tell if you're serious or trolling.
Either way, I would be happy to take your money.
Will you take a bet on this? Test your convictions. I will give you great odds. 5 to 1?
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The hell he will. What could possibly make you think this?
Judging by four years ago, the hysteria will ramp up steeply right about now. He is an obvious rallying point.
But no, it won't. At what date of Rittenhouse still being not-yet-murdered will you accept you are wrong?
Of course I accept I am wrong if he is killed at some point in the next few months.
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My impression is that they don't have enough mana to pull off anything like that this year.
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predictions are one of the best ways available to debug one's own cognition. In this case, it seems very unlikely to me that Rittenhouse will, in fact, be dead before the next inauguration.
I'll even do you one better: not only will he be alive on inauguration day, but no attempts on his life will have been observed.
And we can go even further. Not only will he be alive, and not only will there be no attempts on his life, but he will not be prosecuted or persecuted to any extent greater than the default blue-tribe discrimination in employment. None of the self-defense cases from the Floyd Riots were killed by left-wingers; Gardner was harassed into suicide, and others were successfully prosecuted, but none of them were actually murdered, and they've already taken their shot at Rittenhouse from a legal perspective. If you want to solve a problem, it helps to not catastrophize that problem out of all proportion. The situation is bad enough without needlessly embracing despair.
I largely agree, but he is currently facing a wrongful death lawsuit by Anthony Huber's father. I imagine he's going to be hounded by very well-funded civil suits for a long time as revenge for getting off. Still, this is a far shot from state prosecution or murder.
Paul Prediger, nee Gauge Grosskruetz, aka bye-ceps, has also filed a civil suit. But yes, I genuinely expected feds to go after him, and it hasn't happened, and that surprised me and does show some limits.
This is a guy who was literally pointing a gun at Rittenhouse when Rittenhouse shot him. The story doesn't even mention that part.
Was literally pointing a gun at Rittenhouse, whose friend claimed he said "His only regret was not killing the kid and hesitating to pull the gun before emptying the entire mag into him" (later retracted, tots honest), and who was illegally carrying a concealed weapon after his carry permit had either expired or been revoked.
Yep.
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Greg Abbott?
And that’s not what I said. Chill out.
That being your best example only validates my conclusion that death is the only escape.
That's enough.
You've filled the mod queue with these low-effort comments. Many people are reporting you with some variation of "Does he need help?"
You either do indeed need help or else you're trolling. If this is a bid for sympathy, you are in the wrong place. If you just came here to spew nihilistic doomerism, you are also in the wrong place.
You've earned multiple warnings and your posting has not improved. I'm banning you for a week and next time will move straight to a permaban if you repeat the pattern.
This is needs help or else trolling: https://archive.is/w0mfi
I was merely drunk. I thought that removes responsibility for our choices in current year? Or is it only for female sexual choices?
So, trolling then.
Sorry @Amadan, you don't get to perma this one because I already did.
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Why? His ass is practically armored.
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