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Friday Fun Thread for December 6, 2024

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Overheard at my hospital:

Senior psychiatrist, about 15 years older than me- "I need to get a breast reduction done, look at me, I'm tiny, and I swear a third of my weight is up here."

Then she went on about how it wouldn't be covered by the NHS, and it would ludicrously expensive to get done privately here, hence her plan to fly in to Turkey and get cut down to size there.

The shame! The squandering of God-given gifts! An imminent call for a diagnosis of severe body dysmorphia with threat of self-mutilation requiring involuntary commitment! A man can only sigh and pour one out.

God can neither deceive nor be deceived. He loves us and wants us to be happy.

You are disordered. You seek that which will not fulfill you, but will only bring forth more sorrow to your life.

Yea, I say unto you, repent! And know the Lord is your God.

Be an Ass man.

It's one thing to have round gravity-defying breasts that sit high on the chest like they were made by a hentai artist or a Mauryan stonemason. It's a very different thing to have breasts that look good only when stuffed into a bra, that painfully obey the laws of motion and look that way too.

The fact that breasts lose elasticity with age is proof that there is no God.

Huge tits look great when a woman is young, but they age horribly, becoming saggy and veiny.

One of the reasons Asian women age so well is that they are so flat.

Are there corrective measures, surgeries of any capacity to maintain their shape. What age does the sagging become apparent, how much of it is due to a loss of muscle mass?

The surgeries are called breast reduction and implants, and there're practically no muscles in human mammary glands.

So if there is a woman who has an above average bust, the only way to fix sagging is getting silicon implants?

Think about it logically. Here's a nsfw link to the clinic where my wife got her implants. Most of the post-op breasts (and the whole page is called "breast lifting without scars") look like they have at least some silicone.

That link is a handy demonstration that breasts of any size large enough to count as breasts will be prone to the appearance of sagging. It goes with the territory of growing fat tissue with little more than dermal tension for structure, and after the fat has finished rapidly developing at puberty to a bigger or smaller degree the skin gradually catches up to accommodate it.

All else being equal I personally prefer natural/saggy breasts over pert breasts with surgically circumscribed nipples.

the whole page is called "breast lifting without scars"

If that's without I'd hate to see the page with.

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That there's no omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent God, to be pedantic.

diagnosis of severe body dysmorphia

If you catch a plastic surgeon drunk they'll often argue that ANY desire for plastic surgery is body dysmorphia. Any at all.

There's good reason that they'd say so only when they're drunk, because it's a ludicrously over-expansive claim!

What makes going under the knife qualitatively different when it comes to nigh universal desires to change or improve one's body? Getting rid of burn scars? Removing a mole? Does wanting to get a haircut or go to the gym count as body dysmorphia?

There are no neat edges here, but at the very least I'd expect a degree of delusion about the current condition of one's body, as well as obvious negative harm before I'd consider medicalizing the situation to be warranted.

What makes going under the knife qualitatively different when it comes to nigh universal desires to change or improve one's body? Getting rid of burn scars? Removing a mole? Does wanting to get a haircut or go to the gym count as body dysmorphia?

All yes per them.

(and therefore the dysmorphia isn't necessarily a bad thing).

Well, modus ponens, modus tollens heh

Usually they just need to lose weight.

It's mostly because women hate women with big boobs. Really hate.

The maths is easy - huge boobs are very rare, but their appeal is substantial. About a third of men have a straight out mentality of 'the bigger the better', so the 1 in 30 woman with huge ones has a big edge. There's also some back pain but nothing 20 minutes of exercise a week wouldn't fix.

This is wildly untrue.

My wife literally became a yoga instructor seeking to fix her upper back issues, and if she doesn't work out >4 times a week they recur.

... I said 'breast-related' upper back issues.

... Yes? That was the topic under discussion.

Okay, but suppose she did just the core / upper back exercises, how much would that take her during the week ?

  1. I mostly reject that hypothetical because achieving functional strength and good movement is a whole body process

  2. That said, I would guess she could do it on five times a week ten minutes a day? It's hard to say because I really don't think it's isolable.

But I should note that Mrs. FiveHour is an extreme outlier in terms of poor balance in this case.

Hmm.

As a final word, lucky you.

is an extreme outlier in terms of poor balance in this case.

wdym? Congenitally weak musculature? Unusually large lungs, in excess of 1kg?

Her bra size is essentially fake, in that in America we have decided that all cup sizes above D are kind of gross, disgusting, not sexy. The old Jeff Foxworthy joke about "If you think a 401K is your mother in law's bra size, you might be a redneck!" But cup size is just breast size relative to rib cage, and her rib cage/waist is tiny relative to her breasts. So her measurement would actually come out to something like a 30-F or G, but that doesn't exist in any American store, so she buys a 30-DDDD. Which also mostly doesn't exist.

So when I take her to Nordstrom to buy bras once or twice a year, she's always hoping her rib cage size went up a little, so that her cup size would reduce slightly, and she'd be something more normal like a 32-DD, which might actually be stocked in normal stores. Instead, turns out she's still the same size, and we find out that they have one, basically orthopedic, bra in stock in her size, in nude and black.

I am extremely lucky. But primarily for other reasons.

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I like the subtle flex here hehe.

I saw a breakdown on this where they showed some pictures of women and asked men what they preferred. The sizes were something like this:

  • B cup
  • C cup
  • D cup
  • DD cup
  • Super big unnatural size

DD cup was the most popular size, followed by the super big unnatural size.

And that's why the most popular size for women who get implants is 300-400 mL per breast – about the size of a softball. Ouch.

As you can imagine, it's a class thing, with lower class men preferring the largest breasts.

As you can imagine, it's a class thing, with lower class men preferring the largest breasts.

[citation needeed] It is quite hard to persuade women to get breast implants if they're not of the right sort. Between women wanting to avoid being hated on by other women, that most women are more persuasive than men, there is probably a lot of unfulfilled preferences out there.

But do lower class men actually like larger breasts more than upper class men, or are upper class men just more sensitive to appearing vulgar and crass and temper/moderate their responses? What do you think of the boobs vs butts phenomenon where the map of global preferences looks suspiciously like an IQ map? And Jewish women being known for their breasts?

Ofc people falsify their stated preferences to enhance their social standing.

The ideal forms change with time, in the 90s it was really slender people generally, our times appreciate someone who has above average levels of muscle mass and standout secondary sexual characteristics. I personally always leaned towards the second and never understood the appeal of androgynous, skinny, low muscle mass body types.

The Greeks got both the male and female form right. Youthful heracles is my reference point personally and aphrodite might have been one had I been a girl.

  • What if causation is structured differently? Like, a preexisting proclivity for temperance leading to (1) preference for smaller breasts and (2) better life outcomes.

  • Does the lower class thing hold up in places where there is no correlation between class and obesity rates? Most people like looks that they grew up with.

  • "Those who disagree are just falsifying preferences" is a too emotionally satisfying theory to not be suspect. Also, even if it is shaped by social pressure, in what sense is a sufficiently internalised preference less valid? Nobody likes IPAs or jazz in a state of nature, either.

  • I would guess that IQ correlates positively with a lot of sexual preferences that are not reproductively advantageous. Furries are known to be something like the Jews of IT, too.

a preexisting proclivity for temperance

I think the only limiting factor on preference for breast size is once they become so large they're a visible deformity (at which point you get into inflation fetish territory- aka the DeviantArt school of sexual attraction). Of course, that also means having breasts that large is selected against.

"Those who disagree are just falsifying preferences" is a too emotionally satisfying theory to not be suspect.

I think that pushes the average size preference up, not down, for 'she looks like a little girl that means ur a pedo hahah also die' reasons.

I think that pushes the average size preference up, not down, for 'she looks like a little girl that means ur a pedo hahah also die' reasons.

In my experience I only really feel this dynamic online. IRL I wouldn't feel embarrassed to introduce my parents to a gf with A cups, introducing my parents to my H cup gf would feel shameful.

introducing my parents to my H cup gf would feel shameful.

y tho

But do lower class men actually like larger breasts more than upper class men, or are upper class men just more sensitive to appearing vulgar and crass and temper/moderate their responses?

This article spends several thousand words arguing "Yes".

You always link the most based articles

And Jewish women being known for their breasts?

I haven't really heard this before outside of "khazar milkers"-posting.

Really? My friend (now a Republican state senator lol) and I were joking about "jewbs" all the time in high school in 2006. Granted about half the girls in our school were Jewish so we may have been in an usual situation...

I don't remember if it was a copypasta or a random 4chan comment that lamented "There are women all over the world walking around with big boobs full of milk and they won't let me have any. Why even live?"

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