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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 21, 2024

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I agree with the points of your post. It being a drag is probably a huge part of the shift. Can I get a citation for this:

CPS has gotten involved in some liberal states because the child think they’re trans and the parents don’t agree, so the state comes in and says either get on board, or we take the child.

I think I first posted such a case 5 or 6 years ago. Shit maybe it was 8 years ago? It was the first one I knew of. Everyone at the time just hand waved it away. The "child" was 17, and was moved to her Grandparents who were willing to "affirm" the child's identity. By the time the article was written, and the court cases over, the child was 18 or 19 rending it all moot. The fact that a massive violation of parental rights had occurred, and that those parents had now permanently lost their child was viewed as not being a problem at all since the whole thing had been accomplished fait accompli.

Since then it's been a steady drumbeat.

Here are some more.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/school-hid-teens-gender-transition-from-parents-leading-runaway-abuse-nightmare-lawsuit

https://reason.com/volokh/2022/10/21/court-upholds-removal-of-child-from-parents-related-to-childs-transgender-identity/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dc-family-loses-custody-of-autistic-son-over-gender-transition-fight/ar-BB1qJeZT

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/montana-parents-say-they-lost-custody-of-daughter-after-opposing-14-year-old-s-gender-transition-report/ar-BB1hwjcE

I could keep going. It is happening. Please don't say it's great.

It is good when abusive parents lose custody of the children they are abusing.

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Cutting off your child's penis or breasts is the abuse. Declining to do so is not abusing them.

In fact if your child had cancer in their penis or breasts then not cutting them off may very well be abuse.

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Quibble accepted. Cutting off penis or breasts except in cases of necessary removal due to gangrene or cancer.

Define abuse. And I think honestly this is a thing where people are going to stop trusting the state even more, because here, it’s obviously political. The parents don’t agree that the child has trans, so they aren’t affirming. But this isn’t abuse, and further, given that this is a situation that can be induced, it’s an excellent weapon against the wrong sorts of parents raising kids.

Is it also political when the state wants to give children blood transfusions and parents object?

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Seems like it might be, if the blood transfusions were for treating a psychological condition, and the supporting science was sketchy at best.

Who decides what counts as abuse?

The state, obviously. They're the ones who pass the laws defining abuse!

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It’s great that Texas is removing children from parents who encourage and allow gender transition. The law is very clear that it’s abuse.

Yes.chad

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Taken together, your two statements would seem to indicate that you believe anything the state does is good by definition.

Obv.

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So your position is essentially Tutto nello Stato, nulla contro lo Stato?

So I take it you'll also cheer the state taking away children from affirming parents?

Ya.

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This, this and this is annoying and rhymes with rolling. Knock it off.

Well, I gotta applaud the consistency of taking away kids from their parents for transitioning them, because it's child abuse, and for not transitioning them, because it's child abuse.

Indeed, "abuse that will result in your children being taken away" is not some objective thing in the universe. It is relative to a very particular social construction (laws).

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