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PaperclipPerfector  5d ago (text post)   2076 thread views

Friday Fun Thread for December 13, 2024

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Why does everyone hate Destiny? I probably disagree with him on every issue but he seems likable, is able to reason, etc.

https://mrgirl.substack.com/p/the-destiny-report

Originally I disliked him because his debate style involved tossing random assertions out with absolute certainty. Any time I imagined myself discussing anything with him I could only picture getting drawn into numerous side arguments.

He's gotten more unhinged lately. I think he's been abusing adderall for a while now and it's catching up with him.

Since it's a fun thread... more than a decade ago I enjoyed a series called When Cheese Fails, a Starcraft II commentary show where two Canadians reviewed games in which one player attempts to "cheese" (use very un-orthodox or unsportsmanlike strategies which may be contempt worthy). https://youtube.com/watch?v=xftjDJBtF9U is where I first ever heard of Destiny. Even if you don't care about older starcraft ii, it might be interesting as a time capsule of gamer culture at the time in terms of both sexual and racial humor.

TIL Adam and Jeff are still doing sc2 casts. I thought they stopped years ago, thanks for the heads up!

Ah, that makes me think of vintage Day[9] Funday Mondays. A different time.

I just don't see how this is an acceptable tone for a public figure: https://x.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1812575564093370795

Just go through the quote tweet chain, it starts with Destiny going 'A person in a crowd cheering for and supporting a traitor to this country caught a stray? I’m so sad, please.'

Kisin is openly pro-Ukraine anyway, it's shameless and perverse to say these things about him. Destiny is a despicable, disgusting individual.

Pro-proxy war isn't pro-Ukraine.

I don't like Kisin, I had him muted on twitter but he is firmly pro-Ukraine: https://x.com/search?q=from%3AKonstantinKisin%20ukraine&src=typed_query

He even says he thinks it's too late and that they can't win, that the proxy war is a bad idea. At least that's the gist I get from in front of a paywall: https://www.konstantinkisin.com/p/ukraine-and-the-age-of-cowards

Don't want to turn this into a CW but he deserves a post there. Disliked wannabe Overton window maintainer & spawn of a Russia looter.

There should be an 'every single time' but for people in Western countries involved in Russia discourse with these distinctly Eastern European names... Around Molinsky, watch your foreign policy?

I'm perfectly happy with fact-based criticism of people like Kisin but Destiny has the air of someone who sits around for an hour, seething, drafting and redrafting his adhominem to be as cutting as possible. So he calls Kisin of all people a Putin dickrider.

I should caveat that I've not watched much Destiny, but from what I have seen some of his rhetoric is quite extreme. On some issues he comes across as likeable and open minded, however he also seems to have an attitude that it's ok to engage in smears and underhanded tactics because his perceived political opponents do it, which is a worldview I find deeply unproductive.

What turned me off him the most was how he mocked the man who was killed at the Trump rally. I understand that people can get heated in the moment and make some ill-advised tweets, but when pressed on it while on Piers Morgan he completely doubled down and defended it (you can find the clips on YouTube if interested). I find that behaviour repugnant, no matter who it comes from.

No idea about him specifically - does it count if you hate political Twitch streamers in general? I have no idea about, uh, [googles], Steven Bonnell's specific ideas or personality, but in general I hate the trend of people relying on streamers or gamers for their political views. Even if he himself is great, I think it's an indictment of us collectively that the scene of which he is a part is significant.

I find him and his ilk intensely fake. I wouldn't say I hate him, but after the first few encounters whenever he comes on a podcast I do like I skip the episode. His politics feel workshopped for engagement.

Isn’t he a literal homosexual cuckold and an idpol leftist?

I dislike the entire debate bro culture and have done my best to avoid it. It seems related to a lot of very unhealthy things, namely parasocial relationships worshipping streamers/ecelebs and ideology as fashion trend. I have no particular reason to dislike him more than Nick Fuentes. I hope this isn't taken as rude because I'm genuinely curious, do you enjoy watching these people?

No, I don’t watch anything for debates / politics, I prefer reading for that because of efficiency. But clips of Destiny will come up in my feed (involuntarily), right now on Twitter because of Adam Friedland (involuntarily), and I’m confused why the consensus is that he is the Worst Person Ever. His personality seems likable and his demeanor is calm, so I can’t figure out what’s causing it.

Destiny seems to catch endless flak from Hasan and Vaush for (insert leftist infighting meme). I think its Palestine and Defund The Police that caused the biggest leftist rifts, so off the top of my head I would think that is what catches the ire of leftists.

There is much scorn to be levied at the entire streamer culture and the parasocial relationships engendered with especially pathetic hosts, but Destiny is really mid even by those standards. I love that Breadtube streamer types were convinced that getting Harris on their podcasts would have changed the electoral needle of young men, which is a hilarious lack of awareness of who even ends up listening to their pieces in the first place.

His personality seems likable and his demeanor is calm

I don't really follow him, but I've seen him sperg out more than once. Plus he's on some campaign to troll the right recently, so hardly surprising he's getting pushback.

You're right he can be likeable when he wants to, but he can get pretty abrasive and dishonest when he disagrees with someone.

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