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That's a gross mischaracterization. He was Miami's MVP of 2022. It's like not recognizing Zlatan in Sweden.
He was in a mclaren. That's a $400k car. So, the officers should've at least known that he was rich.
The officer asked him to keep his window down. And within the next few seconds, he did. The officer had no reason to escalate, drag him down and cuff him with the aggressiveness that they did. The stats for police officers shot from a McLaren is zero, and will stay zero. He puts his window down, then unlocks the car and is stepping out. The office still drags a clearly cooperating suspect onto the floor for no freaking reason. If the officer's life was at risk, then the suspect (Tyreek) would not have unlocked the car, had both hands up and let them grab him.
He is entitled. Yes. But, he was cooperating.
Officers don't have a person's record available off the top of their head.
Yeah. We don't want random people to be dragged out of their car if they're cooperating. Why did they double jump on him at minute 2:00 ?
Let's not pretend like people are going to be treated the same, ever. Old money families have multiple hit-n-run deaths on their hands. The police politely go to their houses and ring bells. So if you're rich, the system clearly treats you better. Set the money aside, and this is still baffling. I was poor and I have been stopped a couple of times for suspected speeding. I am not white, but the police were always nice. They took my license. Did the math. Realized I wasn't really speeding by enough and let me go on a warning. A normal human-human interaction.
Miami is not Baltimore. The police offers are not fighting gangs to death on the daily. Why so much hostility ?
The arrest is fine. That manner of it is, really odd.
Are white Americans that blind to how they're treated in the US ? Upper class whites (admittedly coastal) are treated like kings. Their usual attire, demeanor and tone signals authority. And white / coloreds alike fall in line.
I want to avoid making this about race. I'd rather talk about policing at large.
American police aren't dying in the line of action. It is a safe & boring blue collar job; traffic policing in coastal cities is doubly so.
Why so twitchy ?
The officers are entitled to ask you to keep your window down for communication and safety. They asked him a number of times and explained the reason. This is easy to abide by and he failed to do it. You should watch the video. All of this is clear with no ambiguity. “Keep your window down” -> “don’t tell me what to do”.
You are wrong, as they did have a reason, which is his failure to follow simple commands repeatedly, like literally 10x in a row.
This is a category fallacy. McClaren selects for the non-criminal because the high end of wealth selects for the non-criminal. But Tyreek Hill earned his wealth anomalously, as the 1% of millionaires who are professional athletes (probably 0.5% of 8figs are professional athletes). Indeed, he already has a criminal record which includes assaults. Tyreek Hill is not the normative member of McClaren drivers, the relevant category he belongs to is “black wide receivers in NFL” — before I look it up, would you kindly tell me if you think this category commits more crimes or fewer crimes than the average American?
Well, did you look it up? I'm not going to go through the criminal history of every black NFL wide receiver, but back in 2010 SI did a roundup of wide receivers with legal problems, and identified 6 (plus Chad Johnson, who didn't have any legal issues at the time other than being a diva, and Plaxico Burress, who wasn't in the league, and Marvin Harrison, who was investigated but never charged). Antonio Bryant wasn't on the list but I know he had legal problems while at Pitt so I'll include him, too. There were 178 receivers in the NFL in 2009. I didn't tease out the white receivers but there were so few of them that they didn't make a statistical difference. That gets us to a ballpark estimate of 4% of NFL receivers who have been arrested, at least in 2009. Considering the estimates of all Americans with a criminal record range from 30%–40%, I'd say that NFL receivers commit significantly fewer crimes than the average American. I'm sure there were receivers in 2009 with criminal records I didn't know about, but I doubt it's 10 times more. If you actually have statistics on this, I'm all ears.
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Wide receivers are not running backs.
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I agree with a lot of your post. But...
This misunderstands football. I watch a lot of Eagles football, and I would not recognize AJ Brown or Devonta Smith in the street. Normally, when I watch the game, he has a helmet on. Before even getting into cross-racial identification issues.
Hill's a lot easier to recognize if he's throwing the peace sign or beating up some guy on the docks.
Outside of guys that get significant endorsement deals, I just don't really see them enough.
That and when I showed a table full of Polacks headshots of Jalen Hurts and Deshaun Watson to judge trustworthiness.
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There are plenty of examples of supercar drivers getting in trouble with the police. It could be stolen or just an unhinged guy. Rappers and gangsters might not prefer mclaren as their top choice, but don't expect anyone who's not a car guy to have any clue the difference between any two supercars.
If anyone's been shot at from a McLaren it's very likely to have occurred in Miami.
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The cops also have a tendency to fuck with the drivers of supercars, as in Justin Bieber's Miami arrest for "drag racing" at 27mph in a 30mph zone.
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I think you grossly underestimate how famous (and how broadly famous) Zlatan is and overestimate how famous Tyreek (and athletes in general) is.
Zlatan has won best footballer 12 times. He is easily the most accomplished Swedish footballer of all time, not just another good footballer. He has been one of the most famous Swedes for some 26 years. In the 2010s he was the most written about famous person in Sweden, all categories. He is probably better known than the king.
Tyreek is just another good footballer, who is from another state and who's played almost his entire career for another state's team.
I don't fucking know who the left mid fielder for lets say Borussia Dortmund or Manchester City is. I have no idea who the vast majority of the Champions League players are and im not uninterested in soccer, I'm just not very interested. I certainly wouldn't recognize them.
If you're not into football I'd wager you have no idea who Tyreek Hill is unless maybe if you're from Kansas city.
The stars on your own city’s football team are a bit more recognizable.
If you're following football then sure, but if not i don't think a new transfer from out or town is notable enough for one expect the non-interested to be even aware that they exist.
Normies know who the star players on their local football team are, even if they weren't there last year. Knowing the stars of other teams maybe not unless they're super super famous. There's a pretty good chance they don't know their faces, but the cop would recognize the name.
The site just ate my fairly long response and I can't be bothered to retype it.
I disagree and think you vastly overestimate the broad fame of athletes. People do not know the names and faces of athletes in sports they're not actively interested in unless they're written about a lot individually, over a long time. Many people won't know even a single current athlete in many sports.
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I hate to be the one to break it to you, but the man named Zlatan Ibrahimović is not, in fact, of Swedish descent.
Yeah yeah, Swedish birth and upbringing, not descent.
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Dude, I live in Miami and I have never heard of this guy until today. Bubbles are a thing.
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