Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
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Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
2d ago
You made an over-broad claim, I countered it with actual evidence, and now you’re acting flabbergasted that I took your claim seriously enough to refute it, instead of treating it like the empty bluster it apparently was.
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
2d ago
I did read the contents. There are many of the Columbine-style mass shootings nestled in there among the personal beefs. Again, do you acknowledge that things like Kerch Polytechnic, Kazan, and Izhevsk (just to name three from Russia alone) are Columbine-style school shootings?
How about the École Polytechnic shooting in Montreal, which happened before Columbine? Or the Dawson College shooting, also in Montreal? Or the La Loche shootings in Saskatchewan?
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
2d ago
Before Columbine, nobody had ever heard of a school shooting, so nobody did school shootings (and even today, outside America, nobody does them).
This is, of course, plainly false. Here’s a list of school shootings in Europe, another list from Canada, and one from Brazil. Russia alone has had a number of notable school shootings, including the Kerch Polytechnic shooting and the Kazan school shooting/bombing.
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
4d ago
I definitely agree that this distinction is useful, although frankly if the Chinese air force could pull off a strike with such precision that they could blow up the Dalai Lama’s house without hitting anything else around it, I’d have to just say “well played”. I’d be more mad at my own government for not being able to intercept it.
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
4d ago
If they had bombed the college basketball stadium or the NYC auditorium at which I saw him speak, would that have been acceptable?
If the ChiComs bombed an entire baseball stadium or auditorium, packed with civilians, I would consider this an act of war. It would evince a grievously callous lack of regard for civilian lives. However, if they planted a bomb on the Dalai Lama’s limo and blew it up, killing only the inhabitants of that car, I would see this as a legitimate act which could be smoothed over diplomatically.
Similarly, if the Ukrainians shot down Putin’s plane over American airspace, I would not consider it an overly aggressive act against American sovereignty; it would be an obviously targeted act against an indisputable geopolitical foe of theirs, and if the only collateral damage to America was embarrassment about our lack of airspace security, that would be something I could live with.
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
5d ago
Given the distance at which he was shot, I’d be surprised if the shooter could hear anything he was saying.
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
5d ago
That wasn’t an example of ideologically-motivated violence, so far as we can tell. The attempted killer was a former professional associate of the victims who seems to have gone nuts.
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
5d ago
Only in one direction is there a grisly history of racially-motivated lynchings.
We do in fact have a history of racially-motivated killings of whites by blacks, such as the Zebra murders. Are they on the same numerical scale? Certainly not. But I don’t know why the question of historical scale would necessarily impact your priors about the likelihood that any individual was motivated by racial animus. (Particularly given the documented fact that this individual did, in fact, draw attention to race literally immediately after committing the crime.)
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
7d ago
why shouldn’t they be willing to live selflessly for a Christ that has no supernatural aspects?
A Christ shorn of his supernatural aspects is just a charismatic ascetic who bamboozled some poor and sick people by saying spooky unverifiable nonsense. Judged purely by his personality characteristics and by the very limited record of his non-supernatural deeds, he does not come off as some great hero, nor even a stellar lifestyle role model. (He died unmarried, childless, and with seemingly no wealth, possessions, or notable professional achievements.)
I am facing this exact problem right now as I am trying to seek a religious tradition and community. Reading the Bible, I am struck yet again by how little the figure of Christ resonates with me. If one cannot bring oneself to take the leap of faith to believe that he truly was exactly what he said he was and all of his prophecies are of deep import, then it’s easy to interpret the Gospels and Acts as the record of a bunch of fairly reasonable local institutions displaying a quite healthy fear of a revolutionary doctrine urging their populace to leave their jobs and families to go follow a madman ascetic into the desert.
The faith which I’m currently earnestly investigating (Mormonism) believes that Jesus Christ was sent to earth to, among other things, set the example of the Perfect Man; humans can progress toward divinity by striving to emulate the example set by him and to try to become more Christ-like. But the best I can muster regarding Christ is that he was an example, among others, of a life path worth emulating. Certainly he has admirable characteristics — his charitable spirit toward the downtrodden, his interpersonal leadership skills, his obvious self-control and abstention from vice — but we absolutely do not want every individual in our society to attempt to emulate his life or deeds as closely as possible. There are other figures, historical or religious/mythological, who ought to be seen as equally valid life models worthy of emulation.
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
10d ago
No, I don’t think he gets flagged. Again, nothing that looks bad on camera, just your standard on-field verbal stuff that goes on throughout the entire game and doesn’t get captured unless a guy is mic’d up. (And then even if he is, the team just edits the hell out of whatever audio they capture.) Unless Dak said the same thing to a ref, in which case he’d get flagged.
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
10d ago
So the metagame then - if you throw the book at Carter and let Dak "get away with it" it's going to make players feel that being a dick on the field is incredibly useful, as long as they don't get caught.
I don’t think that’s the message at all. The league has had on-field shit-talk for as long as it has existed. What they can’t tolerate is overt, visible aggressive actions that can be seen on-camera. I’ve seen the argument that the league’s renewed focus on eliminating visible displays of bad sportsmanship from its TV product is part of a larger push to stop hemorrhaging trust among current parents of children. (The rising clamor over CTE has a lot of parents deeply wary of involving their boys in football; the league can’t afford to alienate them further by broadcasting their players being aggressive and unsportsmanlike toward each other.)
What Dak did has always been permissible under the rules, and, again, doesn’t really seem that bad or out of the ordinary. He literally just spit on the ground in the general direction of Jalen Carter; he’s not responsible for the fact that Carter has the emotional continence of a small child. If it’s that easy to get in Jalen Carter’s head and make him do something bad enough to get him ejected, then perhaps he’s not cut out for this league long-term.
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
11d ago
I think you’re projecting things onto the situation that aren’t there. Dak’s explanation, which seems supported by the video evidence, is that Carter was talking shit to Tyler Booker, Dak came over and entered the conversation, and he had to spit, so he spit on the ground. The direction in which he spit was a result of the fact that Booker was in the way of where he would have spit if he’d wanted to make abundantly clear that he wasn’t spitting “at” Carter. Then after he spit, Carter asked him, “Did you just spit at me?” Dak then replied, “Why the fuck would I spit at you?” (A perfectly reasonable question.) Carter then very clearly and intentionally spit on Dak’s chest.
Your stance is that spitting on the ground in front of another man is inherently aggressive and instigatory? Perhaps I’m the wrong person to weigh in, as I’ve never been in a fistfight and don’t always have the strongest theory of mind regarding high-testosterone men with a violent disposition, but this seems obviously wrong to me.
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
11d ago
you can't throw the book at Carter and let Dak get away with instigating that.
Spitting on the field is something that every NFL player does probably 20 times over the course of a normal game. I don’t see how it’s a rules violation. Just because he was talking to another player when he did it doesn’t make it an intentional attempt to offend captivate anything or “trigger” that player.
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
11d ago
Additionally - #DakSpatFirst.
Dak spit on the ground, and then Carter spit directly and intentionally onto Dak’s chest. I don’t think these two actions are comparable.
Just how bad the Saints are going to be.
I know Tyler Shough looked pretty all-over-the-place during the pre-season (bad enough, apparently, that the team decided to name the demonstrable terrible Spencer Rattler as the Week 1 starter) but I’m not ready to bury him before I’ve seen him in regular-season action. Their offense has a lot of very capable players, the performance of many of whom will of course come down to health. (Will Chris Olave end up with another concussion? If so, will that be the career-ender? Will Shaheed and Kamara hold up for a whole season or close to it?) The rest of their team is so devoid of talent, though, that it might not matter.
Finding out if we get Good 49ers or Bad 49ers.
Apparently CMC has quietly ended up on the Did Not Practice list as Sunday approaches. My Brian Robinson fantasy stock appears to be growing in value before the season even starts.
Which team will win the NFCE since the Eagles are curse ineligible.
Speaking of fantasy football, my Jayden Daniels ownership in my dynasty league promises to pay many dividends. If that team can just put a functional receiver corps around him that isn’t just Terry McLaurin, that team could get really scary.
How much of a shit show the NFCN will be.
All depends on how JJ McCarthy turns out, and if Jordan Love is as good as the Packers clearly believe he is, seeing as they were willing to trade away two consecutive first-round picks.
Will Chiefs performance have an impact on Swift's relationship.
I have to admit that Kelce is the most formidable competition I’ve yet faced for her affections. Lot of staying power. I need him to have a humiliating season — not only because I’m a Chargers fan, but also if I want to have any chance at her moving forward.
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
11d ago
I will point out that the Euro countries which are producing the most NBA stars are also some of the countries with the highest average male heights on Earth. (The Balkan countries, Lithuania and Latvia, Finland, and Germany.) Not saying the other factors people have brought up aren’t real, but it’s worth pointing out that men from these countries do have at least one very important physical attribute working in their favor, relative to the world at large.
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
15d ago
That would be the Einsatzgruppen.
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
16d ago
I just think it’s far more efficient to be able to speak of a hypothetical person without needing to assume biographical details at the fundamental level of speech. A gender-neutral pronoun would be highly useful here, and would not need to imply any reification of the idea that any known individual can have a gender which is neither male nor female.
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
16d ago
(in the sense of “reacting irrationally and overconfidently” sense, not the ideological sense)
I explicitly said that I did not mean “reactionary” to mean right-wingers. How was that not clear?
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
16d ago
It’s not just feminism that doesn’t like this. It’s a limiting way of speaking about the world — one that assumes men are the default human actor. I don’t think one has to be a feminist to see this as questionable.
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
16d ago
You’re missing the very obvious other use case: discussing a person whose identity is unknown or unspecified in the context of the discussion. A hypothetical person, somebody who is being used as an example to demonstrate a point, etc. All we have right now is the clumsy construction “him or her”, “himself or herself”, etc.
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
17d ago
When I see these arguments all I can think of is: How? How will anyone do this or enforce what you are proposing?
Look, I think almost everybody here is in agreement with you about the extreme political/ideological difficulties in addressing this problem. To the extent that Americans are even willing to openly acknowledge the existence of the problem at all, we are viciously polarized about the root causes of it, and about what an attempt to fix it would even look like. One side (presented somewhat uncharitably) thinks we just need to expropriate more resources and guilt from the dominant white culture and the problem will somehow fix itself; the other side is hotly divided over whether genetics play any role at all, and the anti-genetics side has spent years screeching about the evils of eugenics, so they’re certainly not going to assent to any attempt to address the problem on a genetic/heritability level.
The practical difficulties of disentangling the genetic and cultural factors is a real one, but not a priori insurmountable. The existence of genetically-identical (or at least nearly identical) populations split along cultural lines, with large downstream effects in terms of life outcomes, is trivially observable. (North Korea vs. South Korea being the most obvious one.) We can infer from this that the reverse is achievable; undoing the cultural divide would ameliorate the differences in outcomes.
Now, with American blacks, we don’t have such a starkly-clear control group. We do have American descendants of Igbo immigrants, whose life outcomes are very markedly better than ADOS blacks; however, since Igbos are a fairly endogenous genetic ingroup and are not genetically identical to the ADOS founding population, it’s difficult to disambiguate to what extent genetics explain the difference. (Although at the very least it deals a powerful blow to the thesis that white racism against people with dark skin is the entire root cause of blacks’ worse life outcomes.)
Ultimately I think you and I are in agreement that the idea of bringing black life outcomes into complete parity with white life outcomes is a pipe dream, short of a decades-long coordinated eugenics program. (And maybe even that wouldn’t be enough.) Since that’s not going to happen, we can at least try to fiddle with the cultural dials in whatever way we can; perhaps we can draw some useful conclusions from that regarding the extent to which culture contributes to the life outcomes we’re observing.
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
17d ago
People have to be capable of living in the real world with other people. If they fail that it's not a matter of 'could would should' on behalf of everyone else to coddle these people into not being violent retards. Raja is 25 years old. He should be way past the point of pining for his fathers approval and attention like a dog. And way way past needing to hospitalize another person to do it.
You seem to have somehow gotten the impression that I’m arguing for leniency or grace toward this man. I’m very obviously not. He should be punished extremely strictly and probably never see the outside of prison walls. I am merely observing the patterns that seem to have landed him (and a very disturbingly large number of other black men) in this position. There’s nothing exculpatory about it.
Bad parenting doesn't fall out of the sky by chance. And the bad parents don't keep their bad genes to themselves.
I have made this point many time myself, right here on this very website. Cultures didn’t fall from the sky, assigned at random to different population groups. To an extent, the culture of American blacks is an expression of their innate capabilities and predispositions. However, it’s clearly not entirely so, because it’s also a very different culture from West Africa. It clearly has very strong elements of the Southern American culture into which American slaves were acculturated. (Honor culture elements, boastfulness, etc.)
There were changes in aggregate black culture between 1940 and 1990, and those changes did materially lead to a decline in life outcomes, in terms of things like criminality and out-of-wedlock births. The genetic substrate didn’t change. (One could make an argument about genetic selection effects leading only the most profligate black men to father children during this time, therefore subtly altering the proportions of various genetic traits within the population, but the time period is too short for this to matter, and also the evidence doesn’t seem to support this.)
If those cultural processes could be reversed — either from within black culture, or imposed from without — there would be measurable difference in life outcomes, even though the genetically-influenced things like average IQ and other cognitive limitations would remain. I don’t disagree with you that the higher average propensity for violent outbursts would still be there! That has been a feature of American black men (on average, in the aggregate, with a great many exceptions) for a long time. But it can be mediated by cultural pressures (and an awareness of the need for those pressures) if a concerted effort could be introduced. (Think of something like the strong legal structures that were once put into place to protect indigenous Amerinidians from alcohol, given their lack of genetic protections against alcoholism.)
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
17d ago
I’m squarely in the Steve Sailer moderate racialist camp of “clearly there’s both nature and nurture elements working together here”. I’m confident that there’s some sort of genetic predispositions at play when considering aggregate black misbehavior, low average prefrontal cortex development, etc. But I’d be shocked if that’s the entire story, and I don’t know many serious racialists who believe genetics are the entire story.
Rampage Jackson, from what I knew about him previously and from what I gleaned from your comment, seems to have basically the modal black male personality. Gregarious, full of bravado, capable of very intense but sporadic bursts of aggression, and otherwise basically carefree and unserious. Sort of what you’d expect of a pre-pubescent child or rowdy teenager given a powerful adult man’s body.
I can imagine that this is an extremely poor model for a parental figure of either sex, but especially a father. A child growing up with such a father — even one that is regularly involved with the rearing of the child — will not have discipline or steadfastness or emotional regulation modeled to him. He will struggle to feel like his father is genuinely comprehending and responding to his needs, rather than putting on a performance of fatherhood for an imaginary audience. He will feel the need to compete with his father for attention and status, rather than feeling safe in the knowledge that his father is prepared to self-sacrifice for the good of the child. And unless the child can find a way to break the cycle and advance past this level of arrested development, this is a problem which is likely to compound across generations.
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
17d ago
I agree with @Amadan that this post was difficult to follow. A large part of that is simply the language barrier. However, you have a tendency in your posts to assume the readers have far more background knowledge/context than we actually do. I’m vaguely aware of who Rampage Jackson is, but past that I haven’t the faintest clue who any of these people are, even after reading your post.
Are they pro wrestlers in the sense of WWE-style sports entertainment? Is Raja Jackson involved with this industry regularly, or did he just show up at random to an event and somehow became embroiled in this? What was the exact sequence of events here?
There seems like the seed of an interesting and CW-relevant post here, it’s just buried under a somewhat impenetrable writing style.
I’m not trying to do a gotcha. I’m pointing out that a specific claim you made was wildly overblown. I’m not trying to be insightful or even attack the edifice of your post in any holistic way. I’m literally just focused on that specific claim, which I think was inaccurate.
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