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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 9, 2024

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Why are these Haitians being admitted to the US when there's a neighbor conveniently next door to them called the Dominican Republic that they can move to? They share an island together, in fact, no need to get on a plane or boat.

On average, Dominicanos are not as self-hating or oblivious as to the negative value-add of black(er) Haitian invaders compared to the self-hatred, obliviousness, and negrolatry of EEUU blancos or blanco-adjacent.

Crappy comment expressed crappily. As I seem to have to be telling several people, if you want to condemn an entire population as invasive retards, you need to put more work into it than a Twitter-tier hot-take. You have a poor record of comments like this; next time will likely be a ban.

Por que los Dominicanos tienen una historia de preguntar a dicer 'parejil'.

how cute, they have their own Vesper story

Interestingly, the Dominicans started construction of a border wall last year.

For more information, there's Deconstructing Border Walls: Tackling the Dominican Republic’s anti-Haitian racism.

I was waiting for the part of the article where they'd go from the Trulijio dictatorship massacres to explaining how things got to be this way, but sadly they never do.

Dominicans have the Boer problem: their neighbor keeps trying to seize their land and enslave them but because they're white and Christian, somehow it never seems to count as colonization.

Now I won't be so naive as to claim there isn't fault on the Dominican side, but you'd think not wanting to associate with people who are your declared ennemies would at the very least be justified.

I kind of feel bad, because I shared the article merely because of the silly headline. Apologies for making you read it.

It's extremely hard to find anything (at least in English language media) that represents the position of proponents of the wall. Presumably there are some: a majority of DR citizens support it. But most articles are just about how it's racist and inhumane and escalating tensions.

Dominicans are white?

Hispanics, like Jews, are Schrodinger's whites depending on whether or not it serves The Narrative. See also: George Zimmerman.

Strange that they are Hispanic - they’re more black than Spanish

The word Hispanic really doesn’t have anything to do with someone’s racial background

Strange that they are Hispanic - they’re more black than Spanish

They're literally from the island of Hispañola, you can't get any more Hispanic. (of course the Haitians are too).

They're mulattoes..

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The most surprising thing to me here is the amount of white ancestry in Haiti and Jamaica

They're Spaniards mixed with Afro-Carribeans. Make of that what you will.

They are lighter skinned than Haitians so in the grand unified anglo theory of colonial struggle that the linked article uses, that makes them the whites here. I don't make the rules.

Because the Dominican Republic has actual immigration enforcement.

Not a joke. Obviously it's not practical to guard every inch of the border (which is quite mountainous). But they have checkpoints all throughout the country with soldiers checking cars for Haitians. They deported a quarter of a million Haitians in 2023.

Dominicans are openly racist towards Haitians, they do not want Haitians in their country, and they commit serious resources to keeping them out.

Also, they murdered the fuck out of the expats back in the 30s.

And more recently, stripped people of Haitian descent of their Dominican citizenship.

The DR is surprisingly well run, they wouldn't stand for this shit. Last time I was down there they had prop fighter planes patrolling the border ready to gun down crossers.

I would definitely not say that DR is well run. Corruption is endemic, crime is high, and basic services like electricity are unreliable.

But they are serious about keeping Haitians out.

As far as the specific function of keeping out Haitians goes, they seem to be doing a much better job than the Americans.

The situations aren't comparable. The DR shares a land border with Haiti (which has a similar population), and is very poor itself. They're a heck of a lot more motivated to take positive steps to keep Haitians out than the US is.

Sharing a land border and being poor should make the job harder. But you're right - it's a question of motivation.

The DR may not be well run, but it's a fuckton better run than Haiti. Make that a kilofuckton.

No argument there, it's a stretch to say that Haiti is run at all.

I mean, he did say 'surprisingly well run'. For Latin America, I don't think it's that bad.

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