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You get imprisoned and raped too, and your kid continues to be.
I mean that was happening anyway, and at least you can draw attention to what’s happening
You wouldn't. The most that would happen is you'd get your face attached to a headline about some far-right prole carrying out a racially-motivated attack on a poor innocent PoD (person of diversity)
This seems way too pessimistic. Daniel Penny stood up for strangers and in NYC of all places managed to get a not guilty verdict. Granted the UK is different but what jury would convict a parent of such a thing?
We are already aware a few parents tried to intervene but were arrested. So you already must admit you are wrong on this, just looking for excuses why these parents did nothing
We're talking about the hypothetical case where one of them intervenes to the point they'd get imprisoned. None of the parents took things that far.
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How common do you think the rape of middle-aged adult men is in UK prisons?
As common as middle-aged adult men who aren't hardened criminals themselves are in UK prisons.
On what possible basis? Even in the US that isn’t the way it works, let alone countries in which prison rape is much rarer.
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I think this is not correct -- based on what I've heard (from people who ought to know) the whole semi-acceptable prison rape thing is mostly specific to the US. Not that you might not get the odd gay-psycho-rapist in the commonwealth systems, but that if nothing else the other prisoners tend to keep such guys more or less in check.
The UK underclass is pretty violent though -- I could believe 'severe beatings' as a fact of life for non-players-of-the game who found themselves incarcerated there. Sounds like most of the dads involved would be the type who were pretty involved in that culture in the first place though.
Again, the difference is Sam Colt -- there's not much a guy with a cricket bat/kitchen knife can actually do to seek revenge against a large gang of violent criminals, and there probably wasn't any single obvious target to go after within the diffuse blob of authorities refusing to take action.
What is the actual percentage/selection of people who get raped in prison in the US? People talk as if 99% of prisoners are certain to become ass bitches of the 1%, but that seems off to me. In Russia, for context, the sexual abuse from what is common (but not necessarily up-to-date) knowledge is limited to the absolute outcasts (approximately 10%?), and even then is not always applied nowadays. Which is to say, if you went to prison in Russia for killing your daughter's rapist, your chances of being raped are lower than the average prisoner, except maybe by the guards.
Sexual Victimization Reported by Adult Correctional Authorities, 2020:
Sexual Victimization in Prisons and Jails Reported by Inmates, 2011–2012:
Significantly higher rates—up to 10 percent, but with large uncertainty of ±4 percent or so—were reported at some facilities.
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I mean, prison rape in the US is definitely not universal, even if it’s expected- and violent offenders tend not to be the ones getting raped. Even in the US, a dad who went to jail for murdering his daughter’s rapist is probably not going to get raped.
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