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Indepedent of the race split, we would also get a huge gender split which I find interesting. (And would we possibly get an overrepresentation of nonbinary individuals?)
Let's assume a complete meritocracy based on SAT scores. According to this, the admitted students in Yale have an average SAT score of 1540. Since we disregard anything else now though, it will probably be even higher. However, at the 1400–1600 SAT range we already have 6% women and 9% men. Since we know the tail end of the IQ distribution is longer for men, and 1540 is almost in the upper quartile of 1400 to 1600, we would probably get a distribution of less than 30% women.
As a side note, according to this the average SAT of someone putting "Another/ No Response" as gender is 1067 in comparison to 1029 for men and 1018 for women. Huh, I wonder why that is. Few explanations that come to my mind are politically correct.
Commenting here since it is the topmost reply.
New year, same old tricks.
Mods: can you please undelete top level comments when this person deletes them?
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Part of the answer is probably that being smart is correlated with thinking that being asked for your gender on a test is stupid and irrelevant. I'm not necessarily saying that it is stupid and irrelevant, but I could easily imagine the teenage me putting "Another / No Response" instead of "Male" on the question just because my attitude to the question would likely have been "Fuck you, why do you give a shit?". Also, some people might just put that answer as a joke. There are very many smart people who are annoyed by schooling and SAT tests and would enjoy giving the whole thing a middle finger.
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We can conclude that there are a lot of white and Asian men who are not getting the academic degrees they would get in a meritocracy. Then the question becomes where do these men end up and how to invest in these sectors. Typically high status low paying jobs such as author, human rights lawyer, journalist, professor etc are being ethnically cleansed of white men while other elite institutions are having an under representation of white men. These men are probably not all giving up on life just because they didn't get into Yale.
They go to some other university and are later working professionals.
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People are saying the trades but that's delusional. People who apply to Yale are going to go to a safety school, not drop out of college all together.
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Men just in general have a lot of options that don’t depend on college available to them. Middle class Americans tend to discourage their daughters from military enlistment(reasonably in my view), and women don’t make it in the trades.
It’s no tragedy to be making bare six figures(that’s still what, top five percent) with a house and a family.
Well, women have a lot of options men don't have, such as merely existing and Meeting Someone who makes any financial concerns go away for them. College can aid in finding such a man, but it's hardly a necessary nor sufficient condition.
Chael Sonnen describes here the horrors of coming from a family where, in some years, his father barely made six figures.
While this is true, the most reliable path to becoming a homemaker for a secular ethnic majority woman is to study math homework in the engineering commons of your university and bring baking to thank that engineering student for being a much better teacher than your professors.
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Many men also have that option, it's just that, like the women in question, they have to be willing to have sex with women whom they are not very attracted to, or not attracted to at all. One of the most common types of drama stories from low-income communities, for example, is "I pay the bills of this guy I'm fucking and he doesn't even commit to me".
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My guess is that many of them go into professions with higher pay but lower status, skilled trades, HVAC, property and construction (all roles), B2B sales, corporate roles at medium to large companies that aren’t Fortune 500s with woke hiring programs, many go into tech.
A guy who has a 1500+ and doesn't get into Yale doesn't go into trades, he goes to U of either in his own state or with the state adjacent to his waiving out of state tuition. I know, I am such a person. I got rejected by Ivies and went on full ride to an out of state, state school. Then I got a full ride to a different law school.
I am in an industry without many H1Bs, but people a half or quarter std below me are exactly the sort of people the recent H1B kerfuffle was about. Maybe they merely got a half scholarship to engineering school and merely graduated with a 3.7 instead of a full ride and 3.9. Those Americans are perfectly capable of doing the job. I worked with them on many projects.
Not that such kids can't go into HVAC. But that is kinda silly long term. Unless you figure out how to run a business, HVAC blows out your back at 55 almost guaranteed. Then where are you?
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Trades pay gets massively exaggerated- we get teacher money for the most part, except the guys who work 100 hour weeks.
That being said, teachers definitely make a living wage, and ‘living wage, plus dating opportunities with dumber than you women, plus the ability to live in a shitty neighborhood with no problems’ is an appealing pitch for more men than women by a long shot.
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Tradesmen can live in a much lower rent neighborhood before for similar levels of crime concern than white collar workers making equivalent money.
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An artifact of the audience, to live in a clean well ordered suburb in a southern or midwestern city is considered "shitty" by most of of the users here because it is naturally "lower status" than living in a condo in New York or LA. That the latter is far more likely encounter litteral shit/feces on the sidewalk than the former is just a fun bit of irony.
The difference between a "shitty" nieghborhood, and a shit nieghborhood.
I recall reading the observation on this forum and on Reddit that such suburban living combines all the disadvantages of urban and rural living. Maybe that’s what these users have in mind? The lack of walkable neighborhoods and third places, your neighbors being boorish and boring etc?
This is anti-rural slander / urbanist propaganda.
Our neighborhood is walkable, there's not really anywhere to walk to except nature trails and neighbors houses. There is a pub and two churches that many would consider their third places.
Wildlife is great too. https://imgur.com/a/bTanUVX
What about supermarkets? Gyms? Barbers?
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Yes, that's what the opposite of "walkable" means in a practical sense.
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