Botond173
6d ago
we saw signs of harm that the war on drugs was causing
Is this specifically meant to be a reference to the incarceration rate of black men?
Botond173
6d ago
Also being a city with no hinterland, in which virtually every citizen travels abroad regularly.
How does any of that matter in this respect?
Botond173
8d ago
The Blue Tribe's Long March succeeded because the Red Tribe was either entirely unaware of it happening or assumed that it's politically irrelevant. It's never going to happen the other way around.
At this point in time all this makes scant difference. French society is in terminal decline, ideologically captured and on an irreversible path of racial replacement. In this it's not different from other Western European societies, of course, but one aspect that does set it apart is its proven ability to regenerate and transform itself by itself through upheaval and bloodbath. After all, it's no coincidence that the current French republic is the fifth such in history. This is something the Germans or the British will never be capable of doing.
Ignoring all that, it's a great write-up indeed.
Botond173
14d ago
I find it rather telling that the one regime this tribe constantly holds up as the bright shining light of model liberal democracy is the FRG i.e. former West Germany. It makes sense, as it’s an otherwise nonsensical polity that was artificially created by first merging America’s local zone of military occupation with those of Britain and France i.e. states that economically and militarily depended on the American empire for their very existence after 1945, and then absorbing another fake state, the GDR into it in 1990 and then lying that this constituted the “reunification” of two sovereign states. It’s clear as day that this whole power structure exists under the tutelage of the US Deep State (also under the strict understanding that it continues to economically aid Israel) and that there’s not a single citizen of the FRG that may assume any high-level position of local authority of any sort before being vetted for years by NGOs, foundations, universities and other tools of said Deep State. This in itself explains why this whole political organism is heading straight towards voluntary self-abolition and annihilation.
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Just to nitpick in a friendly manner: I suggest that instead of linking to two dozen or so comments, you post the first comments of comment chains / discussions where you participated.
Botond173
14d ago
Once it became clear that the term had outlived it's usefulness
I'd add that the Manosphere was clearly able to exist as long as it did due to a very peculiar cultural milieu where Blue Tribe feminists were ramping up the culture war, but the Trump phenomenon, the alt-right, the meme wars, Gamergate etc. did not yet exist.
Botond173
14d ago
Andrew Tate was able to make a name for himself precisely because he obviously took detailed arguments that were posted on Manosphere sites that have been defunct for many years, repackaged them and dumbed them down, and presented as his own in short videos and whatnot. His followers believe him because they don't know any better, because again, those sites are no longer accessible. He's exploiting the death of the Manosphere.
Botond173
15d ago
A long time ago @Lewis2 made the following accurate (I think) sociological assessment:
Long afternoon naps and constantly falling asleep in front of the TV (or at least, constantly watching TV) are traits I would associate with lower and lower-middle class suburbanites and urbanites. Most of the older men I know are (semi-) retired farmers, small shop owners, professors, or blue- and white-collar workers who saved enough to be solidly middle class. These old men still help with the farm, cut firewood, paint the siding, clean the gutters, mow the yard, garden, hang out with their friends, golf, do a bit of carpentry or mechanical work, and so forth. Even in their old age, they’re typically still quite a bit stronger than their wives, which enables them to continue doing the more moderately physically-demanding tasks for longer.
It caught my attention back then because the first sentence is a perfect description of my father, even though he technically counts as a more or less solidly middle class suburbanite. It made me think about the everyday lives of the plebs and the various ways this life trajectory is markedly different from that of the classes above them in the social hierarchy. I’ll offer some arguments about this here, as I don’t think this would be valid content in the culture war thread.
One sociological observation I’ve read on dissident blogs is that the plebs and their rulers have radically different notions of retirement and leisure. Middle-class and upper-class youths are conditioned from early on to have low time preference, so they generally have at least a vague idea that a proper life goal for themselves should be a comfortable retirement spent travelling and doing other fun stuff after a long and fancy career. This, on the other hand, entails that their youth is to be focused on studying, busting your ass, networking, building connections, learning marketable skills, keeping up appearances. It’s obviously no fun, but it’s still necessary.
For the pleb, such considerations don’t appear, one obvious reason being that high time preference is the norm for him. The argument that he should plan ahead for a long and happy life would seem laughable to him and doesn’t even occur to him. The lives of plebs are uncertain and messy. As far as they’re concerned, the time to have fun, feel unburdened and do what you want is in your youth, because you cannot be sure about what comes later. In other words, their lives are generally front-loaded.
If you also consider that the only jobs available to the plebs are the shitty menial jobs, whether they entail physical labor or not, this means that the plebs doubly exploit themselves: they perform shitty jobs that heavily tax either the body or (in the case of shitty office/cubicle desk jobs and the like) the mind while at the same time routinely endangering their health: eating crappy processed/fast food all the time, binge-drinking, using all sorts of shitty illegal drugs, abusing prescription drugs, smoking, staying up late and not having enough sleep in general, partying, developing addictions etc. The combined effect of all of this is that the pleb turns into an overall wreck by the age of 50. What does this mean exactly? Your knees and back give out, and your liver and heart are all fucked up. Just moving your arms around can be painful in itself. In general, you’re in constant pain, and can call yourself lucky if you don’t get addicted to painkillers. Even if you have a nice garden/backyard, you can no longer cut firewood, paint the siding, clean the gutters, mow the yard, garden, do carpentry etc.
You never had much intellectual or spiritual curiosity to begin with, and the goyslop/prolefeed you’ve been watching all your life on the TV or your phone has rotted your brain as well. And when you stop working and retire, you lose the one source of daily stimulation and sense of direction and purpose you still had. This is the thing that explains “long afternoon naps and constantly falling asleep in front of the TV”. Never in your life did you read literature or had any interest in history, culture, arts etc. and it’s not like you’ll start to do this when you’re old already.
You become bitter and irritated, staring into the void of the abyss as Nietzsche described it. Most of the friends you used to have are now dead, crippled or sick and require regular care. Once you retire and your children reach the age when they no longer need to be looked after and it’s no longer necessary to organize events where they can play and hang out with other kids, you no longer have much of a reason to interact with your acquaintances of the same age, and your social circle erodes and eventually disappears. This is why elderly male social alienation/isolation is a big issue.
Again, all of this experience markedly differs from that of the middle and upper classes. I assume many of the regulars here belong to these classes and yet not have a general awareness of this, which is why I posted it here. (I don't think it belongs to the culture war thread.)
Botond173
16d ago
I guess I was a bit tired when I replied to your comment. Your argument seemed to me to be that Russia fully controls the left-bank Ukraine when in reality, as I can now see it, it is that Russians can interdict river transport on the Dnieper. I’ll not argue with that.
Botond173
17d ago
Writing in The Guardian, Lucy Mangan stated that Adolescence was "the closest thing to TV perfection in decades"
This statement alone should make everyone rather suspicious about the series.
On a different note I'd like to mention that Brianna Ghey's murder had nothing to do with either transphobia or misogyny, as the Wiki article makes it clear.
Botond173
17d ago
These are well-read, sharp people who do not normally display any sort of cognitive derangement or hysteria.
To state that they are willingly indoctrinated is probably more accurate. Also, the likely reason you never see them acting deranged in real life is that they never reveal that side of themselves to you.
Botond173
20d ago
And I think the reason for the people willing to live in California for those industries, it’s a combination of those industries being very lucrative and the relative distance between LA or San Francisco and the nearest available cheap red state housing.
Judging by Scott's article on the subject, housing in the Central Valley is also relatively cheap, isn't it?
Botond173
20d ago
Willfully condemning it to an early death still wasn't a really swell idea.
And this is all happening in the country held up by liberals everywhere in Central and Eastern Europe as the shining light and saviour of the rules-based liberal democratic international order.
Botond173
20d ago
By freezing current boundaries, they give Russia full control over the Dniper river.
Huh? The Russians aren't controlling the bank of the Dnieper anywhere besides a small area in the vicinity of Kherson. Their forces aren't anywhere near the river.
Botond173
20d ago
That’s a bit uncharitable, I think. The situation was simple. Churchill, as far as I know, became the head of government as a result of the German invasion of the Low Countries which started on the same day, May 10th 1940. Within two to three weeks it was clear that not only will the Low Countries all fall but France as well. At this point it was clear as day that for Britain to continue the war instead of negotiating an armistice only makes any sense if the US and the USSR can be pulled into a prolonged total war. Anyone with a brain could easily realize that it’s the only possible path to “victory”, and even that entails the complete destruction of the entire continent and the British Empire wasn’t going to survive either.
Botond173
20d ago
but playing up the savagery is fairly new.
It obviously seems to me to be just a reaction to the usual leftist depictions of them.
Botond173
20d ago
I'm certain that you know very well that his attitude towards those races is by all means irrelevant to the dissident right's reasons for denouncing Churchill.
Botond173
22d ago
But I'm saying this as someone who came of age in the late 2000s, and am what would be probably considered an oldhead by most youth.
I'd say the situation has essentially been like this since 2008, yes. Maybe the period between 2015-2019 was slightly better.
Botond173
22d ago
Since you gave a response I decided to not be lazy and converted 5 foot 8 to centimeters after all. I'll concede that you have a point. Still, I'm pretty sure that most 170-pound women are shorter than that, and the ones that are indeed that tall get, I guess, usually quickly snapped up by high-status big men specifically seeking out women of such proportions.
The pictures you posted are blocked by Cloudflare, so I can't comment on them.
Regarding inceldom, again, I don't know who this Lomez guy is or what the wider context was of him giving the advice of pairing up with 170-pound women. I suspect this advice boils down to "ignore the factor of sexual attraction when looking for a mate", which I find questionable at best.
Can anyone explain the Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid reference? I just don't get it even though I've seen S1.
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