anti_dan
11hr ago
If someone with a (D) after their name wanted to enforce lawful immigration policy we would see complaints and pushback and then the Democrats would back down and not do it.
We had the little kid from Cuba.
Democrats are allowed to deport even children that are likely to become Republicans.
anti_dan
11hr ago
I think OP offered that up. Go after companies hiring illegals was the plan.
Requires a law being passed. Is impossible unless Democrats AND RINOs both face a wipeout.
anti_dan
12hr ago
I thought I could come out here for a month, relax with friends, write some articles for my blog, do some skiing. Nate Silver, ever the pollster, says the country is largely sympathetic to Minneapolans, but says the country at large doesn't feel as though it is living in a time of creeping authoritarianism, and I get that. But out here, living in it, we just wonder "how many more?"
I mean, isn't the answer, eventually, up to the people going out and harassing police? If I, a person with no criminal history, went to the house of a known murderer, and armed myself, and had compatriots in my pro-murder cause, then saw a fellow murderist being arrested and I tried to pull officers off my murderist friend, what would be the result?
We can hope the police are good enough to merely send me to prison for a few years. But, reality is that force in resistance of lawful authority endangers everyone in the vicinity, including officers and yourself. ANd if an officer kills a bystander, I am the one who should be charged with murder.
anti_dan
12hr ago
a) All of this is necessary because of Sanctuary Policies that the Police Don't Co-Operate with DHS, so ICE Must Go Looking For The Criminals. Why don't they hang out outside the county jail and question people on their immigration status there on their release? Why don't they hang out at the courthouse - recall, a judge was just convicted of obstruction for preventing ICE from arresting someone at a hearing, they can sit in the gallery and question everyone's immigration status at the end of every hearing! You would be much more likely to arrest people guilty of criminal acts if you did this, than going door to door and getting into fights with protestors.
The jails are under guidance, at least in MN to scout for this and inform detainees of ICE presence. They are barred from courtrooms regularly. And to put a point on it, your plan is totally inefficient. Most places wont have who your are looking for unless you already know, which you dont because no one is sharing information with you.
3000 agents is still a tiny force. And apprehending fugitives is extremely time intensive.
By way of example:
The Great Lakes Regional Fugitive Task Force (GLRFTF) began operations in April of 2003 and was among the first Regional Fugitive Task Forces to become fully operational following the Presidential Threat Protection Act of 2000. The GLRFTF has partnership agreements with over 90 federal, state, and local agencies and has 7 fully operational offices. The Great Lakes Regional Fugitive Task Force has successfully apprehended over 117,700 fugitives since its inception and has made an extraordinary impact on the apprehension of the region’s most dangerous and violent fugitives, always striving to make their communities safer.
20 Years. 90 agencies. Barely over 100k arrests. The way modern law enforcement works is largely by normal warrant processes. A guy does a crime. He either goes to court to address it, or he doesn't and a warrant is issued. Then he, being a criminal, does something stupid like blow a red light. He is then arrested and brought to the judge that he skipped court on. That normal process doesn't work for ICE in Minnesota. As a result they have to do GLRFTF level work for every illegal in the state. The GLRFTF does not deploy resources for normal crimes. Its basically only for murder, attempt murder, armed violence, and sex crimes. Everyone else, your retail thieves, your car thieves, simple robbers, drunk drivers, all you gotta do is not violate a traffic law for the duration of the statute of limitations and you can get away with a felony. Now, you, being a felon are unlikely to possess that skill, but you can try!
Minnesota is basically forcing ICE to treat immigration enforcement like other police agencies treat Criminal Sexual Assault, and then also letting people harass them while they try to execute that mission, which with the GLRFTF would typically involve at least 1 team of 2 officers sitting on a location, often multiple teams of 2-3 sitting on multiple locations for multiple days. Which obviously would be frustrated in purpose by people surrounding the police cars and blowing whistles. Not exactly conducive to finding a guy evading arrest. Imagine if every pedophile had a defense force of people at his home, his mom's house, and his sisters house blowing whistles whenever police were there. He's probably not getting arrested anytime soon.
And that is the current situation in Minnesota. Minnesota also should be viewed as both an outlier, and a pilot program. Many states are sanctuary states, but many of them also have police forces in quiet rebellion that actually do let ICE know, just on the down low. But ICE will have to take on California and New Mexico sometime in the future, and it was likely decided to try to figure out what could possibly work in a very leftist state with a very modest goal before going after the big fish.
anti_dan
1d ago
Then again, the even smarter thing would be for them to call off this whole punitive ICE expedition.
That would just be endorsing nullification so long as the left decides it can sac a few pawns.
anti_dan
2d ago
There is fairly strong evidence Arbery wasn't "just a jogger". That you bring it up in that way is pretty strong evidence to me that your media diet probably should be amended.
anti_dan
2d ago
What's wrong with carrying a gun in a public place in Minnesota ? Isn't are American LEO not trained to handle situations with gun-owners peacefully ?
Peaceful gun owners, yes. Not ones who enter into a rugby scrum with officers.
anti_dan
2d ago
Yeah, that's politics. Why are you surprised ? The adversary baits you, but do you need to bite ? The protests are getting more heated, because Trump is biting onto the bait.
I dont think this is true. The nature of these riots makes it impossible for ICE agents to utilize public roads without provoking violence. If ICE does anything other than a complete withdrawal, these incidents will continue to happen, and they will continue to escalate into deadly use of force scenarios. We were actually getting close to the same point in the Chicago area a few months ago, but then some backroom deal was struck with the Johnson, Pritzker, and Homan (which they will all deny happened, but clearly did) and now random people aren't tailing ICE vehicles, ICE facilities aren't under siege as CPD watches paint cans fly at officers heads, and ICE aren't picking abuelas up out of taco stands, but they are being allowed to casually pick people up from the jails even though they aren't being officially "notified" when ICE warrants pop.
anti_dan
3d ago
"Part Time" and "Town" are giveaways. The kind of town with part time officers will almost always be low crime, and cops will be respected culturally. His main job would be writing speeding tickets to out of towners, writing DUIs (but only to the REALLY DRUNK drivers), amd responding to domestic incidents. In the latter two his judgement is respected by the community and if he deems the person arrestable, they lose an immense amount of social status, regardless of conviction (which is basically guaranteed).
That has almost nothing in common with the experience of a police officer in Chicago or Memphis.
anti_dan
4d ago
But could you have gone 20 years with that amount of income and maintained a level of humanity that doesnt seem sympathetic to a media person?
anti_dan
4d ago
1k per month is just like...nothing? The average welfare recipient is getting about that much from one program alone, often more if they are in subsidized housing, have subsidized pre-k, etc. The selling point of a UBI is you get to get rid of all the hoops and ladders and qualifications and bureaucrats that traditional welfare needs. But the only way for a UBI to replace those things is for it to replace them. And, if you set UBI at a level where an unemployed single mother of 2 can live and support the family, or be employed and buy childcare, well we are talking in the 40k+ range. My understanding is that many families legitimately receive over 80k in benefits yearly. Converting that into UBI is obviously impossible mathematically. And if you dont, you cant get rid of the rest of welfare without there being a lot of crying "hungry" children being paraded in front of the news.
anti_dan
6d ago
They are both stupid. The former is significantly less evil in practice in that 1) If it works for you, like Genghis Khan, then it is what it is; and 2) Its not supported by majority narratives, so it hurts far less people practically.
Now, its true that far more women in the world will secure 6-6-6 men than men will acquire 6+ women harems that are functional. But since several orders of magnitude more women expect 6-6-6 than expect 6+, the former is significantly more evil as an idea in the world. Its kinda like how murderers are more evil than ghosts.
anti_dan
6d ago
Yes yes, it's very fun being a free rider. Convenient that there are still enough rubes that we can get away with it for a while.
I am not convinced that people using adblock or not buying advertising products are free riders. I suspect its anyone who's revenue is derived from ads.
anti_dan
6d ago
I'm not sure I accept your premise that advertising is a net negative. There are certainly many things I have gladly purchased that I found out about through advertising. My intuitive sense is that ads have had a net positive or at least net neutral impact on my life, not a negative one.
Many? I can only think of one thing in my entire adult life, which was a type of pants for being a bum on the couch that I hadn't tried before. And if I had never learned about them I would be like .001% less comfortable the 10 days a year I wear them instead of normal sweat pants.
anti_dan
7d ago
The problem with this theory is that a lot of his moves are not even close to insta-wins. Accepting Obama's proposal that Iran is the new American Ally in the Mid East is an insta-win. Instead he went with a complicated Israeli-Saudi led alliance that has only paid off in ways that 9/10 advisors would have told him would fail.
Same happens basically everywhere abroad.
Domestically his successes are more limited, mostly because his power is more limited and media is stronger. If he could just get blue states to cooperate with ICE with a magic wand and proceedings could be expedited, he would be above his February approval ratings. Instead, doing his promises necessarily looks scary. He's got a harder job.
anti_dan
7d ago
Why, after everything the Right has pulled over the past year, would any elected Democrat step down for being too anti-Republican?
Do you mean after what the Biden admin did the 4 years prior? Trump hasn't even caught up to Biden month 3 yet.
anti_dan
8d ago
Garland never convinced anyone beyond partisans of his bona fides because they were not capable of being established. He spent tons of political capital exaggerating J6 and pursuing extremely long sentences often with novel legal theories (many of which has to be struck down on appeal for being facially absurd). Then he went all in on novel legal theories to go after an ex president. There was no good faith to establish.
anti_dan
11d ago
That is American Eugenicists -> Fascists -> FDR -> American Progressives -> Modern Leftists. If I'll give you the last one for free, which still leaves four degrees of separation.
I wouldn't dare rely merely on the fallacy of inheritance. Rather I would say that most of the bigger ideas remain the same. The Modern Leftist vision for Banks, Tech, and Medicine, for example, isn't a socialist system, its a fascist system. Private actors ostensibly maintain ownership of the means of production, but their ability to make meaningful decisions that the regime disagrees with is practically zero (this has yet to happen with tech, but the Biden administration showed their hand and vision WRT that sector).
They also routinely deploy street militia to agitate and intimidate. A holdover. Still obsessed with race, just in a different way. Still obsessed with abortion and fertility control. And much more if we want to continue going down that way.
The SJP are the ones in IQ denial, correct?
I will proceed as if this means "Social Justice Person(People?)" The correct notation I am aware of is SJW.
What exactly is IQ denial for you? The negation of HBD? The rejection of intelligence as a concept of colonizers? Accepting IQ, but denying any heritability (blank-slatism)?
Any and all.
Is the idea that they would embrace HBD and basically advocate for forced sterilization of low g people to raise population intelligence? Or that they would embrace white supremacism? Or that they would double down on their initial ideas about group differences, and try to form the world towards their own ideals, forcibly sterilizing smart Ashkenazim and stupid members of what they identify as low-g races to create an utopia where race is uncorelated with intelligence?
If you took the rest of the worldview, which says that abortion is great, the state should be involved with everyone's business all the time, the poor must be provided welfare and healthcare so they dont die in the street, and the state should spend vast amounts of money on education and childcare. You get to Eugenics very quickly if you don't have blank slatism. Its the only way to avoid human suffering and a permanent class of wards of the state. Sterilization of Low-g people is the low hanging fruit. Noticing that certain groups are different in average g is step 2. Sterilizing Ashkenazim may be a thing some places do out of tribal self preservation as the Nazis did. Who knows what exact type of derangement would emerge. I certainly didnt anticipate in 2015 that 10 years later the progressive shibboliths would be chicks with dicks playing high school track meets and Somali fraudsters shouldn't be deported, but here we are.
Given that forced sterilizations seem bad and any woke could be reading our conversation at this very moment, do you think it is safe to make them even aware of the fact that you consider them in IQ denial lest they cross your thin line and turn into monsters?
Forced sterilizations are only bad if you are Christian. If they are not they should advocate for them based on their principles. I think, currently laid bare they would be forced to openly advocate for the abortion of all white male children. Which would show them to the world as their true selves.
anti_dan
11d ago
If you want to claim to love America, it should be for reasons George Washington and Andrew Jackson would agree with you. That's the tldr
anti_dan
11d ago
Still, a test maxing nerd would not get in unless he was actually brilliant. They let in mostly actually rounded elites
anti_dan
12d ago
The actual question is akin to the one in that HBO Show with the Dumb and Dumber guy. If you cant answer it while referencing people who have been here longer than your ancestors, they better have been here a long time ago and you better agree with them.
anti_dan
12d ago
Isn't doing things in your own financial self interest > doing things for the "common good" a part of traditional American customs and values? Capitalism > socialism, individualism > collectivism, libertarian hands off government > nanny state, and similar concepts are a strong part of the American cultural core historically in my eye. The "American Dream" is precisely this idea of an opportunity to work hard and be rewarded for your own success in a free market. So I'd contest that coming to the US "because they see dollar signs" is in opposition to American values, because I believe seeking personal economic success is an American value.
Within a social construct, yes. But when you steal bricks from your neighbor's brick road/driveway because you know you aren't going to be caught, or that you wont be punished, this breaks down.
When you make these kind of arguments, people dont simply understand that a civilization that can establish capitalism and can maintain it is the rarity. A lot of Alex Norwasteh types are like this, and as questions like, "if your culture is so good why wont it just win out?" And the answer is that it is good foor cooperation, and Cooperate-Cooperate wins out over Defect-Defect. And most places are Defect. But what happens when a lot of Defectors enter is they make a lot of local gains, enriching themselves and impoverishing the rest. And often they are able to jump from place to place so long as they are a minority. And realistically, over time they cause the place they defect in to become a defection economy, which just doesn't work.
What people who grew up in Cooperate societies want is Cooperate societies, they don't want to have to send police to every park to ensure there isn't shit and needles where their kids want to play. They don't want their son to compete against a guy using steroids in boxing or using meth during standardized tests. But the things they dont want are what they are getting.
This answer is obvious. This failure dilutes the voting power and saps the taxpayer resources from everyone else in the nation.
There is strong evidence, illegals aside, the last census was highly fraudulent and sent lots of extra political power to Democrats. There is also lots of evidence illegals compounded that.
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