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Pseudo sugar baby behavior ‘dating’ men who provide ‘gifts’.
Tagging @Nerd as well.
Understood, and thanks for the elucidation. But, as @mrvanillasky says, this isn't prostitution not only because of the semantic or technical arguments on frequency, solicitation, clearly stated exchange of services for money etc, but because the way in which these women think about themselves is different and, yes, that does matter.
This behavior is probably anti-social. It is definitely extremely poor mate selection followed by even worse "relationship" management. It's trying to paste over some very real material needs with a cheap concept of a relationship.
But it is categorically different than intentionally selling one's body and sexual services. When this occurs, things get even darker and less likely to be recoverable. In this case, a person has made a commodity of themselves physically (and, some of us would say, spiritually as well. Let's leave that aside for now, however). It's a de-agency-ification of the self and that turns into a permission slip for all sorts of destructive and anti-social behavior. Often, the psychic strain creates deep substance abuse issues. There's an increasingly likelihood of involvement with a grey-market economy and the many sleazy characters who involve themselves with it and, sometimes, even outright integration with organized crime (old school biker gangs still "run girls").
Again, all of this isn't to say that your girlfriend's sisters are "doing just fine." This is bad, anti-social behavior and I hope they change their ways.
Still, I'll fight the fight about the specific use of the word "prostitution" which, in my opinion, needs to be treated very differently and very severely. The "two consenting adults" midwit argument papers over the fact that to the extent current day slavery exists, it's largely sex trafficking for purposes of prostitution.
thanks. providers or beta buxxers are not the same as men paying for prostitutes and all women indulge in this behavior to some capacity, OPs girlfriends sisters are on a very high percentile.
My perspective is more cold approach inspired. Most women can get away with guys paying for their things, they reward them with crumbs of attention, sometimes it can be the pretty girl making the nerd do her homework and smiling at him, other times it is this case or it can even be seeking arrangements, the sugar daddy website. Most guys are not "lovers", they cannot give the girl a good time and if you are strapped for cash, having a guy cough up things for you is not irrational.
Their behaviour is anti-social because they are doing this with multiple guys and not just one which might be because of the sexual revolution allowing women to reduce the consequences of sexual activity. Also, sex is not very frequent in these types of scenarios, most guys barely get to kiss the girl, let alone make love. If you come off as a guy who can be made into a paypig, you will be a paypig. So now you can send time with the lover, commit to the provider when you cant get the lover to commit and the provider willingly accepts the ordeal.
yep, same boat as you and appreciate the effortpost @100ProofTollBooth. Prostitution is also far more traumatic for the girl and the guy involved whereas beta buxxing mostly only hurts the guy. I have personally seen girls ditch providers for exciting guys and openly talk about using guys for buying them stuff for free, sometimes they might kiss them and rarely they would have sex with one of the many on her hook.
I don't doubt this phenomena exists, but I've never witnessed it first hand. Maybe people I know don't give off simp vibes?
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