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I suspect you live in an extremely Trump-biased media bubble. In my Kamala-biased media bubble vibes are at an all time high and people are convinced that JD Vance is going to get fired and are non-stop fucking a couch memes. Both of us are too online to evaluate how any of this plays with normies.
Couch Fucking, if it emanates into the general public sphere will do nothing but make people think about old Dave Chappelle sketches, which are devastating to 2024 Democrat politics.
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Yep. Also, I am sure just from simple probability if for no other reason that most people here do not live in swing states, which adds to the difficulty that we have in figuring out how various kinds of optics might actually impact the election.
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What?
At the time of writing, a /pol/ thread claims that this passage, in which Vance admits to masturbating with the lubed interior of a rubber glove held between two couch cushions, was in the first edition of his book, but was deleted from later editions.
So that's what Twitter was on about last night. Nice to know I can stop feeling uneasy about the Kamala blowjob jokes.
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I'm... kinda impressed by how bad that is. I get that no one reads the original text, but good lords, you couldn't get a sharper tonal or stylistic mismatch from Elligy's writing style with a steel blade and a whetstone.
The man wouldn't use the word 'lush' unless held hostage, and I think 'chambers of manhood' would by only work Red Triber frameworks as a testes joke.
EDIT: for contrast, the portion where a lot of the words he would use was lifted from.
The more outrageous a lie you can get your followers to believe, the deeper you buy them into your team
Insofar as such half-joke-half-smear claims go, "JD Vance had sex with a couch" is rather benign compared to, say, "Big Mike Obama" or the implications of "I have information leading to the arrest of Hillary Clinton" and the like.
The things happening around Clinton were highly dubious and she is obviously corrupt, in a sleazy eastern European way (improbable futures/stock trading etc), not the polished American one (speaking fees etc).
And seeing as how Epstein died - and he was heavily associated with Clinton, who flew Lolita express numerous times, apparently 26 times - I don't have a hard time imagining she has been at times involved in someone getting killed outside of her official government work. (Where she infamously asked "Why don't we just drone Assange ?"..
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Why are the other ones worse than this one? Also, is this the final verdict on whether this sort of thing is ok? No one is going to flip out anymore, if you pin that sort of thing on a left-winger?
"Big Mike Obama" - ie. the idea that Michelle Obama is trans, if taken seriously, implies there's been a decades-long conspiracy to cover up this fact, including, presumably, everything related to make people believe she has naturally birthed Sasha and Malia. The Hillary thing implies she's a mass murderer who kills everyone who opposes her. Vance having sex with a (lubricated glove stuck in a) couch, while embarrassing, would not be a completely expectional thing for a young-ish man to do.
The point is that right-wingers crying foul over this while not crying foul over similar but worse jokes from their own side.
It's a half-joke on your own terms, why should all of it's implications be taken seriously?
When that Home Depot lady got fired we were posed a question of whether right-wingers are here are going to decry it, now that it is their side doing it. My point is analogous to that, if that cancel culture question was valid, it is valid to ask left-wingers that didn't like these sorts of insults to decry them being made about Vance. Either that, or to explicitly endorse a free-for-all.
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That's a very interesting point you're making, though I think it made more sense in the other thread than here, and repeating it makes me think this is itself some sort of a psyop... But anyway, yeah, I think back in 2016 it was easier to stick your figer in the air, and tell which way the wind was blowing, even with all the aglorithms and social media bubbles. Today's Internet is so fake it feels like you never know what is real, and what is someone's marketing campaign.
Wait... @Tomato, I just reread that other thread, it doesn't make any sense over there either. Is "vibes are at an all time high" something y'all are trying meme into existence*? If so can you stop doing it here? In my book, this makes you no better then that dude who's spamming AmRen links through "criticizing white nationalism".
EDIT: *) Nevermind, I re-checked the results of that search and only the first one is about Kamala. Still, am I the only one who find the whole "we're all in bubbles, the vibes in my bubble are at an all time high" somewhat hamfisted into either thread?
Repeating an idea in multiple comments is common because people will naturally want to say the same thing multiple times if they believe it, it does not imply some kind of deliberate effort to shift opinion.
I guess I'm going full-schizo, but it just looked weird to me.
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Or because I didn't get traction on it the first time, so I try it again hoping to spark the discussion I want. I, like most commenters, remain fairly sure I have the most brilliant idea underneath.
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