Tomato
4mo ago
Besides the event where Trump said Kamala wasn't black, has he? He's the one backing out of the debate, not Harris.
Tomato
4mo ago
Normal Republicans are great. I wish the Romneys and Rubios were in charge of the party.
I don't know how broad your definition of anti-woke is but I think the set of republicans whose brand is anti-woke (like the "intellectual dark web" people) are basically Trumpers in disguise or at least exist only to pander to Trumpers.
Tomato
4mo ago
The Tik Tok thing is a core representation of how Trump thinks and makes decisions though. He supported banning it on what seemed like a whim, a rich investor who seems to have some financial connections to China made a big donation, and then Trump came out against the ban. He repeats this pattern over and over. He seems uniquely and obviously prone to self-enrichment and therefore a completely untrustworthy on major issues like China, both to domestic people but also importantly to international partners.
Some other obvious flip flops/inconsistencies that come to mind with 10 seconds of thinking:
- Immigration, he recently went on the VC grifter podcast and said he's all for skilled immigration. He said the same thing before he was president but one of his first acts was to totally fuck up the visa/green card process for all my high skilled immigrant friends and leave them randomly stranded far from home.
- Stances on crypto
- Stances on taxes
Here are some more details: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/22/trump-policy-flip-flop-00164538
Tomato
4mo ago
I don't really understand the line of attack claiming Kamala is hiding? She's been speaking constantly, to far larger crowds than Trump, and Trump is the one who backed out of the pre-arranged debate.
Tomato
4mo ago
Yes, the way to defeat a movement is to give them power for another 4 years.
Tomato
4mo ago
We’ll see when they start polling Walz but the Vance favorability polls speak for themselves.
Tomato
4mo ago
Putting tampons in a boys bathroom makes normal people go “huh, okay” and they shrug and move on. Making a huge deal out of it and calling someone Tampon Tim makes normal people wonder if there’s something wrong with you. Like why is your team spending so much time thinking about girls’ bathroom habits. It really just feeds into the weird accusations.
Tomato
4mo ago
Also, the "No, it's not us that are weird! YOU'RE weird!" attacks on Walz just look like the "Vance is weird" thing REALLY got under GOP's skin and that they're doing the thing that demonstrates an attack has been effective - mirroring the attack. This sort of mirroring rarely if ever works in doing anything more than just giving more strength to the original meme.
Yeah it’s very obvious that the people doing/cheering on the “weird” counterattack have really bad intuitions about how ordinary people read situations like this. Like no you don’t beat weird accusations by posting a thousand anti-trans memes and calling Walz a cuck.
Tomato
4mo ago
TikTok ban, for example. At least Trump’s flip flopping is easy to predict (preferences of the last rich donor he interacted with)
Tomato
4mo ago
Trump finally taught dems that the right way to campaign against him is with name calling and vibes so that’s what we’re going to get until he’s gone. It’s funny we only hear the right complaining about this once the weird couch fucker attacks from the left start landing.
Tomato
4mo ago
I've been asking blue teamers to name the most impressive achievement attributable to Harris.
I don't care about any policy achievements attributable to Harris. I think Team Biden has done an extremely good job and that Team Harris will be a continuation of Team Biden. I do, however, think that Harris is a good champion to finally defeat Trump and permanently demoralize MAGA, which has been an insanely negative drag on our country since it sprouted up. I want and need nothing else from her.
Tomato
4mo ago
The problem is that Walz reads as such a turbo normie that an attack like this just ends up highlighting YOUR weird ideological obsessions.
Tomato
4mo ago
#TamponTim definitely falls in the online weirdo category of insult. The problem with this line of attack is that Walz comes across as so extremely normal that if anyone gets into this kind of argument with him the optics are that he's a guy you trust to coach your kid's football team and some deranged looking guy is next to him talking about grooming kids. It just doesn't matter who's the accused and who's the accuser in a situation like that.
Tomato
4mo ago
The electoral college is DEI for white people so given the system it makes sense to have a DEI white candidate.
Tomato
4mo ago
Again, though, I think this shows a misunderstanding of the character of this event. It’s a “material that is most relevant to white guys” session, not a “whites only” session.
Tomato
4mo ago
I think a lot of the pushback here and from other rightwing online spaces is way too deep in woke/anti-woke culture war slop to really understand how this sounds to normies.
“White dudes for Harris” is full of normie white guys like The Dude, and the conversation reads to other normies as “hey I’m a white guy, I like Harris, and y’all are having fun. Can I take a break from grilling to come help?” Most white normies just don’t really think much about being white and haven’t had their world view poisoned by weird culture war grievances.
The fact that rightoids can’t help but interpret this as some skirmish in the upcoming race war really gives away the fact that the hypothetical White Men For Trvmp movement is a totally different and more sinister phenomenon that people should be worried about.
Tomato
4mo ago
impacts the mother and she's often not ready for it. The same argument applies to men
As a man with a kid I will emphatically tell you that there is an extreme asymmetry between being a father who is the sole financial provider and being a woman who carries a pregnancy to term, delivers the baby, and breastfeeds the baby, so much so that it’s basically nonsensical to see the financial aspect and the physical aspect as analogous issues.
Tomato
4mo ago
This is not a rigorous definition. A rigorous definition would offer a clear way to distinguish the state of "enthusiastically want to have sex with each other" from the absence of such a state.
It’s a fully rigorous definition, “enthusiastically want to have sex with the other person” is a well-defined state of the world. Separately, it is difficult to provide objective evidence of this state to outsiders, but that doesn’t mean that the definition isn’t rigorous. Fortunately it’s extremely rare for there to be any disagreements.
Tomato
4mo ago
Can you provide a rigorous distinction between "casual fun sex" and "rape culture"
Do both parties enthusiastically want to have sex with each other? That is casual fun sex.
It’s really not hard to define rigorously. Of course it’s harder to set down a list objective evidence that proves both people enthusiastically wanted to have sex with each other, but notably for the vast, vast majority of casual sexual encounters the facts are not in dispute.
Tomato
4mo ago
I’m not sure what your point is? I’ve been married for a while but had lots of fun casual sex beforehand?
Tomato
4mo ago
I’m sorry but “financial abortion” is just way too off putting for normies. If men want to get together and advocate for that that’s fine but when actual abortion restrictions are in play it shouldn’t surprise you that advocates focus on that.
Tomato
4mo ago
It's not cool and fun when men engage in casual "fun" sex
No offense but you need to touch grass
Tomato
4mo ago
I have no idea if Vance is a serious person because he appears to have no deeply held views besides bending in whichever way the political winds are blowing. The fact that all the weirdest and most online rightoids love him makes me think he’s probably not serious.
There's no one Trump could have chosen that the media would have applauded.
There are a lot of potential candidates who don’t give half the electorate the ick. Burgum, Rubio, Romney, etc.
I'm a Pennsylvania voter so you're all stuck with me :)
I agree blue states have done a terrible job on building housing, and housing costs are really the main driver of outmigration, plus boomers retiring to the sunbelt. I'd be a single issue voter for any party that could credibly increase the housing supply in high demand areas.
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