site banner

Culture War Roundup for the week of January 22, 2024

This weekly roundup thread is intended for all culture war posts. 'Culture war' is vaguely defined, but it basically means controversial issues that fall along set tribal lines. Arguments over culture war issues generate a lot of heat and little light, and few deeply entrenched people ever change their minds. This thread is for voicing opinions and analyzing the state of the discussion while trying to optimize for light over heat.

Optimistically, we think that engaging with people you disagree with is worth your time, and so is being nice! Pessimistically, there are many dynamics that can lead discussions on Culture War topics to become unproductive. There's a human tendency to divide along tribal lines, praising your ingroup and vilifying your outgroup - and if you think you find it easy to criticize your ingroup, then it may be that your outgroup is not who you think it is. Extremists with opposing positions can feed off each other, highlighting each other's worst points to justify their own angry rhetoric, which becomes in turn a new example of bad behavior for the other side to highlight.

We would like to avoid these negative dynamics. Accordingly, we ask that you do not use this thread for waging the Culture War. Examples of waging the Culture War:

  • Shaming.

  • Attempting to 'build consensus' or enforce ideological conformity.

  • Making sweeping generalizations to vilify a group you dislike.

  • Recruiting for a cause.

  • Posting links that could be summarized as 'Boo outgroup!' Basically, if your content is 'Can you believe what Those People did this week?' then you should either refrain from posting, or do some very patient work to contextualize and/or steel-man the relevant viewpoint.

In general, you should argue to understand, not to win. This thread is not territory to be claimed by one group or another; indeed, the aim is to have many different viewpoints represented here. Thus, we also ask that you follow some guidelines:

  • Speak plainly. Avoid sarcasm and mockery. When disagreeing with someone, state your objections explicitly.

  • Be as precise and charitable as you can. Don't paraphrase unflatteringly.

  • Don't imply that someone said something they did not say, even if you think it follows from what they said.

  • Write like everyone is reading and you want them to be included in the discussion.

On an ad hoc basis, the mods will try to compile a list of the best posts/comments from the previous week, posted in Quality Contribution threads and archived at /r/TheThread. You may nominate a comment for this list by clicking on 'report' at the bottom of the post and typing 'Actually a quality contribution' as the report reason.

5
Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

So, some thoughts-

First, Greg Abbott does not take stupid risks. He has thought through, gamed out, and verified his assumptions about every aspect of this scenario, and he has a backup plan in case he turns out to be wrong. That backup plan is probably not "defect to Russia", and it's also probably thoroughly planned with assets in place to activate at a moment's notice. My first thought is "the shooting starts and we take over the pantex plant", but that seems overly dramatic. It seems very plausible that he has a plan to crash the grid in much of the country by cutting off natural gas shipments, and that would explain his timing this for January when late summer gives him political cover. It also seems implausible that support from other republican governors wasn't arranged before releasing a letter essentially claiming the federal government has lost the mandate of Heaven and so Texas doesn't have to listen to the supreme court; the twitter DR is claiming responsibility for convincing them all to throw in with him, but just think about that until you realize why it's probably not the case. At the very least, Stitt, Desantis, and Youngkin were probably in on it. I would not be surprised if there was a pre-planned border patrol mutiny or a few colonels able and willing to do something high-profile and panic-generating.

Second, Greg Abbott backing down is not going to happen unless he can cast it as a win somehow. It's unreasonable to assume the federal government will make large concessions, and the rally around the flag effect in Texas isn't proven but it's intuitively obvious. The most likely scenario to me is a high stakes standoff that goes nowhere. Federal troops shooting at state troops or arresting a sitting governor is the sort of thing that crashes the stock market when Biden's trying to treat it like so many frightened horses, so I don't expect much past posturing and defiance on either side.

Thirdly, the Friday deadline is probably China's last warning; there was a last Wednesday deadline that's come and gone too. While this assuredly represents a decline in the federal state capacity, that's the bigger story than border posturing.

Fourthly, Abbott has endorsed a series of primary challengers to accused rinos in the Texas legislature in the upcoming primary. Given that he became governor by being a constitutional lawyer with a winning record at the supreme court, he knew he was going to lose in court. The rally around the flag effect might be a benefit to him here if he's trying to get rid of enough moderates to solidify one party control over the legislature.

Further context here- https://www.themotte.org/post/824/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/178887?context=8#context

Thirdly, the Friday deadline is probably China's last warning; there was a last Wednesday deadline that's come and gone too. While this assuredly represents a decline in the federal state capacity, that's the bigger story than border posturing.

The funny thing about calling it China's last warning is that the PRC is assuredly watching for signs of chaos in the USA.

Well yes, they definitely are, and I'd have pointed to debt shenanigans as a bigger concern to their "watching for chaos in the USA" desk at Chinese state security previously to this. But there's probably some frantic intelligence reports being generated in Beijing and Moscow right now.

He's not cutting off natural gas shipments. It would be murder for Texas-based companies like Chevron who pulled out of Appalachia because of low prices, and a boon for EQT and Range Resources. The number of people in Western PA who would see their royalty checks triple (conservatively) may be enough to give the state to Biden, if he weren't already in a position to win. Drilling in the Permian and Eagle Ford will grind to a halt, and there may be ripple effects where the money's made in Houston. I'm not saying any of this would be a certainly, but it's enough of a risk that I highly doubt Abbott would be stupid enough to attempt it. He knows who butters his bread.