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Culture War Roundup for the week of May 29, 2023

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Talking about some baseball player's Instagram post, reactions to it, and the Bud Light boycott is a valid Culture War topic, but this post is exactly why we say to leave the rest of the Internet at the door. You are literally just coming here to complain about being banned on reddit, with complete repostings of your entire personal thread just so you can bring your drama to what you presume will be more sympathetic ears.

Don't do this. Two-day ban to deny you the satisfaction of participating in this thread, because this is such an obvious and deliberate flaunting of the spirit and letter of the rules.

I strongly disagree with this characterization of OP's post. The rule states in relevant part that, "we ask that you refrain from posting bare links to culture-war-related discussions held outside of this sub. If you are going to link to another platform we ask that you please put in the work to contextualize the post and explain why it is relevant to readers of this community."

This is not a "bare link" to a culture war discussion from an outside website. The OP provided plenty of context, and it's obvious why this is relevant to the culture war--it's an example of progressive/woke discussion norms and of what is considered "out of bounds" in woke spaces.

The fact that OP is directly involved in this culture war drama should be irrelevant. If this interaction had happened on a college campus between students, with some of the students trying to "cancel" another student for saying what OP said, and someone had given this description of the events along with light commentary describing their thoughts on the matter, no one would have batted an eye. This is classic Culture War Thread content and OP shouldn't be punished for posting it.

The OP came here to bitch about being banned on reddit, complete with repostings of their arguments with the mods.

That's not what this place is for and you will absolutely be discouraged from doing that.

The fact that OP is directly involved in this culture war drama should be irrelevant.

It isn't.

If this interaction had happened on a college campus between students, with some of the students trying to "cancel" another student for saying what OP said, and someone had given this description of the events along with light commentary describing their thoughts on the matter

Then it would be a substantially different situation from this.

He has a good point. The rule's title is "leave the rest of the Internet at the door", but the rule's text doesn't actually say not to post about anything involving yourself and the rest of the Internet. It's an inaccurate title that doesn't really describe what the rule refers to. The rule itself only says that you shouldn't be posting bare links to such discussions without context that explains why it is relevant, not that you shouldn't be posting such things at all.

The OP clearly didn't post a bare link without context.

flaunting

*flouting

I agree with the other comments.

It's an interesting thread and a straight up ban on first offense with that hostile wording seems very excessive.

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I think the rule is good. And that this discussion could have happened without the OP violating the rules.

I also think there needs to be some place on the internet for people to discuss their feelings about the echo chambers elsewhere, and I'm not sure there is a better place at this point than here.

You can do this here. What you can't do is bring up a bunch of specific subreddits, specific people, and specific details of the situation. Leave the specifics out and talk in generalities.

The rule does not forbid bringing up specific communities, people, or details. It just says:

If you are going to link to another platform we ask that you please put in the work to contextualize the post and explain why it is relevant to readers of this community.

So you can be specific, you just have to contextualize.

If you want an easy way to avoid drama leave out the details.

No amount of details or contextualizing will save a post if it's bring drama down upon us.

Personal vendettas are unlikely to pass muster.

So this post brought drama down upon us? From /r/baseball?

Yes, only one person (the original poster) but that's enough.

There is a different spinoff site for this sort of thing.

What? Are you saying that the op itself is the drama which the op brought down upon us? What does "drama" mean?

We're saying "Don't start a thread here just to bitch about how you got banned on reddit."

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I really thought we had another rule to use specific groups instead of general. I suppose the closest is the CW prompt's "[Avoid] making sweeping generalizations" or perhaps "be as precise and charitable as you can." Yeah, those are in theory compatible with generalities.

It still rubs me the wrong way.

  1. All reddit mods are terrible

  2. some reddit mods are terrible

  3. [these specific] reddit mods are terrible.

The rule you pointed out covers 1, the op did 3 which isn't allowed cuz no drama. 2 is allowable and what the op could have said.

How could you argue 2 without 3?

"I had an experience in an unnamed subreddit..."

I can see how technically his post violates the rule, but "Two-day ban to deny you the satisfaction of participating in this thread" seems rather savage to me given that I am not convinced he broke the rule deliberately.

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