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Culture War Roundup for the week of March 17, 2025

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Also tagging @HughCaulk.

I agree with you. I'm not advocating for deportations because of race animus. I'm advocating for 1) deportations of illegal immigrants AND 2) a massive overhaul of labor laws.

Here's is my big post on that point

I don't buy the idea that natural born Americans "just don't want to work" - I believe that combination of the welfare state and labor laws actively prevent them from easily getting basic level jobs. The only way for these basic level jobs (exactly the ones you listed) to get done is to illegally employ foreigners. To be blunt; we have outlawed cheap labor in this country, so the only way to hire cheap labor is to do it illegally one way or another. Who is going to have an easier time accepting and illegal job; someone who is already violating US law or someone who is not?

It would be perfectly legal to pay your workers less than illegals are making on a roofing crew. This isn’t 2005. People willing to work for low wages just don’t exist in America. Increasingly, Americans won’t do physically difficult low status work at all.

This is a major problem with post scarcity societies like the modern west. Somebody has to nail shingles and dig ditches and slaughter animals and pick produce. But you have to be willing to let people starve if they don’t. People without scarcity won’t do that. People are perfectly willing to buy strangers a hot dog outside of seven eleven. ‘Literally starve to death’ isn’t a realistic bad outcome in a society where food is a trivial expense to people.

Increasingly, Americans won’t do physically difficult low status work at all.

Well, the solution is to make the work well paid, and high status. Let Hollywood make flood of movies about brave and manly construction workers and vegetable pickers.

Yes, Soviet efforts to do this completely failed, but Hollywood is Hollywood. If you can make cool and prestigious as hard, dirty and dangerous profession as cow herder, you can do anything.

Agree with all of your points.

People willing to work for low wages just don’t exist in America.

In this case, I'm going to defer to you as your post history (assuming a stranger on the internet isn't lying!) does demonstrate a more consistent exposure to these realities.

People willing to work for low wages just don’t exist in America.

Well, then capitalist solution is to raise the wages. There is no problem in finding oil workers, no matter how remote is North Dakota and how dirty and dangerous work it is.

Quoting a quote is fucking stupid, retard.

Banned for one week. You seem to be on an unfavorable trajectory.

Oil work is high status(in the circles the workers come from) because of the pay. Obviously, you can’t do that with every socially necessary but unpleasant job- you’d just wind up at universal basic six figures and then paying very well no longer makes working on a rig high status.

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