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Upwards of 85 million people died in WW-II, the fact we're cancelling Democratic elections in 2024, and underneath the veneer of psyopping the West into thinking it's because of Russian interference in TikTok, under the hood the, um, responsible decision makers are citing his praise for Antonescu, is outrageous. Citing the fact that Jews died in shootings or resettlement in WW-II should not even remotely justify this act by Western Democracy (TM). I don't think I misrepresented at all, I think your representation is actually worse than mine was as mine had slightly more detail than what you are mentioning.
It's just such a Jewish-centric view of the world, we can cancel elections if someone praises a leader who got Jews killed during WW-II, a war in which tens of millions were purposefully killed by world leaders on all sides? Are we able to cancel elections if a candidate praises a world leader or national hero who was responsible for getting white people killed in WWII, or getting Romanians killed under Communism? Are Jews just that special?
Antonescu is not even accused of being involved in the alleged operation to gas millions of people inside gas chambers that had been disguised as shower rooms, and @Stefferi apparently considers it illegal Holocaust Denial to praise someone who died before WW-II even started, based on the fact that person was an "anti-semite." Can we take notice now that Democracy is just being cancelled now and these Holocaust Study institutes are just officially being delegated as EU censors?
I do not think him praising a mass murderer is grounds for overturning a democratic election.
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I didn't say anything about anything being illegal or Holocaust denial, I just noted it was quite misleading to state that Georgescu was only being criticized for praising Antonescu when your own sources also mentioned Codreanu.
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This is unfortunately characteristic of all your posts on this topic.
"Some Jews happened to die during a war, and now anyone who might have somehow been involved with a Jew dying during the war is cause for cancelling elections. Holocaust grifters are pretending that Jews dying during a war is worse than anyone else dying during a war. Yeah, there were some resettlements and shootings, but that's just stuff that happens in war."
Well, gosh, yes, that would be pretty outrageous, wouldn't it?
Your responses are bad and disingenuous, and I have pointed out before that you don't engage in good faith or honestly, not because I disagree with your premises (which I do), but because you intentionally obfuscate and cloud the actual issue you are arguing.
Your core belief is that the Holocaust didn't happen, and if it did the Jews deserved it, and nothing exceptionally bad ever happens to Jews and if it does they deserve it. Of course if you presented it that bluntly, you'd turn off even a lot of the Jew-critical readers. So instead you post things like this, arguing as if people are (at the instigation of paranoid manipulative Jews) criticizing some guy who admires some other guy who might incidentally have been involved in a few Jews dying along with lots of other civilians during the war. But unless you can handwave away all Jew-slaughter as conveniently as you would like to, the charges against Antonescu are considerably more than "some shit happened during a war."
Now this is not an invitation to go through your entire Holocaust denial tap dance one more time to explain how being an anti-Semite is irrelevant and anyways anti-Semitism is good actually because Jews are bad. You single-issue posting about Da Joos is annoying; dropping the Joo-posts into every single thread that you can possible make about Jews is even more annoying. What grinds my gears personally is when you engage in this level of disingenuous, which offends me because I dislike sleazy argumentation. If you said "Antonescu wasn't responsible for any massacres because those didn't happen," I'd disagree but at least you'd be arguing honestly. Likewise if you said "Antonescu participated in the slaughter of Jews because they had it coming and he was doing a good thing." I am honestly not sure which of those two statements is closest to your actual belief, but "Antonescu dindu nuffin" is surely not something even you are niave enough to actually believe.
This is unfortunately characteristic of all your replies to me, you just grandstand with irrelevant jabs and don't even engage the point I'm making.
Can you Amadan, parse for me why a Romanian Nationalist praising a Romanian Nationalist leader constitutes Holocaust Revisionism? That's a serious question I expect you to answer. You just take the double-speak in stride and don't even think to question it.
Sadly you devolve to the same baseless accusations of dishonesty even though I'm extremely upfront about what I believe. The core controversies surrounding Holocaust Revisionism are not directly even related to the WW-II narrative surrounding Antonescu, so why would I bring them up? Your accusation that I'm being dishonest by not mentioning those other matters is just another of many examples of you being extremely uncharitable instead of engaging my argument.
I didn't say it was. But much of the objection to this Romanian nationalist was because of (a) his own anti-Semitism (which, again, you just claim doesn't exist and is also a good thing) and (b) the involvement of the leader he's praising in the Holocaust (which you... well, see (a)).
Note I am not claiming this in itself is reason to overturn an election; I don't even know all the nuances of the Romanian political situation. I'll bet you don't either. If a candidate who was legitimately elected had his election overturned just because he's an anti-Semite, well I'd object to that on principal (again, without knowing what Romanian law says). But I don't think that's the case and it doesn't seem to have much to do with what happened. It just so happens that a right wing candidate appears to also be anti-Semitic, so you are again trying to shoehorn your ZOG conspiracy into events, because everything is always about Jews.
Feel free to keep wasting your time grandstanding, I'm just going to ask you the same question again:
Can you Amadan, parse for me why a Romanian Nationalist praising a Romanian Nationalist leader constitutes Holocaust Revisionism?
Why would the Rabbi from the AJC make this claim? Explain that to me, and if you decide to continue whining about me talking about "da Joos" I'm just going to ask this same question again in response.
I answered you directly above, and @spiky_fungus responded below.
If you actually start posting about something other than Da Joos, I will stop pointing out that you do nothing but Joo-post. You would like to post about Jews Jews Jews constantly and you've been told not to. You haven't actually been modded for it recently because we let people have a long, long leash about their hobby horses, because it is somewhat subjective at what point someone is going on about something "too much," but if you are declaring your intention to single-issue post over and over, that will make our decision easier.
At this point, you're the one who should get modded, and you would if you weren't a mod yourself. Your posting is just so tedious, why not engage in the discussion instead of constantly expressing your disapproval that I'm talking about this?
Trust me, people report me whenever I argue with you. You certainly have your fans. I am very restrained in how I address you, as opposed to how I would respond to you if I weren't a mod. However, pointing out what you do, and pointing it out every time, so that you are not able to become comfortable with semantic evasions or attempting to turn this place into your personal soapbox, is not against the rules.
I do engage in the discussion. I've actually dissected your arguments many times. I don't just say "Stop talking about Jews, it's tedious." You can be annoyed that I won't let your posts pass unchallenged, but as several mods have told you, if you don't want to keep getting dinged for incessant Joo-posting, try actually engaging with the community instead of treating it as a recruiting platform. Do you ever talk about any of the other topics that come up here? Do you ever engage in any casual threads? No, you only ever post if you can make it about Jews. You make it very clear that the only reason you are here is to talk about Jews in the hopes of persuading more people to think like you do about Jews, simply because this is one of the only forums that will allow you to do this. So I'm telling you that our free speech norms are liberal but not infinite, and while you're not getting modded, you are going to have to continue to suffer me pointing out what you're doing.
For what it's worth, I appreciate that you do continue challenging his nonsense. I've done so a little in the past, but SS is both indefatigable and evasive on the topic, such that after a few rounds it is easier and preferable to just ignore him. Even so, to see the same old posts about the Jews over and over, with minimal challenge, is rather dispiriting, so thank you for continuing to do what I've grown too weary of.
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this was answered, you are doing your usual dance again of wasting time of others...
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This was not answered at all. How is a Romanian Nationalist praising a Romanian Nationalist Leader "Holocaust Revisionism"? There is a correct answer to this, but you have certainly not given any answer at all.
this part of your post
is definitely a Holocaust Revisionism. Specifically "Calin Georgescu's "Holocaust Revisionism" amounts to praise for Romania's WWII wartime leader Ion Antonescu" part.
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AFAIK noone in this thread claimed that "praise for Romania's WWII wartime leader Ion Antonescu" is automatically "Holocaust Revisionism"
But that is what the AJC is claiming and that is what I am responding to my OP you have quoted here. The AJC has accused him of Holocaust Revisionism based on his praise for Calin Geogescu. I have asked you and @Amadan to explain how that is Holocaust Revisionism. You continue to refuse to do so, except for just saying "it's definitely Holocaust Revisionism." How?
I'm a Holocaust Revisionist, so I know it when I see it! I want you to explain to me why Calin Geogescu praising Ion Antonescu as a national hero is Holocaust Revisionism. Don't just say it is, make a simple argument for why that statement is true.
You just openly and shamelessly do this double-speak and then freeze up when asked to lay out clearly why what you are saying is true. And then you accuse me of dishonesty.
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