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The problem with DR3 is that pointing it out doesn't work. Normies won't believe it because the Democrats are the party of Not Being Racists no matter how racist they actually are.
Even if it's ineffective, "controlled opposition" sounds like he's someone working to ensure no one walks off the reservation. If that's the case, what is supposed to lie beyond DR3?
Yes chadding and tactical minimization of the power of "racism" as a concept. When the enemy controls the plains you fight in the mountains.
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No, the problem with DR3 is that “racism” isn’t a bad thing. Being aware of racial differences, and acting on that awareness, is an entirely healthy behavior within reason. If the Democrats were “the real racists” - meaning they were willing to openly acknowledge HBD and outline ways to address it - I’d be way more likely to vote for them.
If that's what it's about, than it's the last I want to hear of "buying into your enemies' framing". Noticing differences is not racism.
What do you think racism is?
A belief in inherent collective inferiority of a particular group, to the point of ignoring any individual characteristics that contradict that belief about the collective. Broadly, because I can imagine examples that aren't about inferiority, strictly speaking.
This seems like it’s designed to exclude basically every modern instantiation of what every racially-aware person today believes. Like, if you’re not a Madison Grant level “Africa begins at Calais” Nordicist TND advocate, you’re not a racist? What does “inferiority” mean in this context? What percentage of blacks do I need to believe are “exceptions to the rule” before I’m no longer a racist? (W.E.B. Dubois, one of the great black thought leaders in American history, spoke of “the talented tenth” of blacks needing to paternalistically care for the other 90% of them who are not cognitively capable of measuring up to Western civilization. Was Dubois racist against black people?)
You asked a one line question, am I supposed to give you a doctoral dissertation with strict definitions, and guidelines on how to apply categorize each instance, or is a broad answer enough? Like I said it's not even strictly speaking about inferiority. If you want a "no blacks allowed, no matter what other hoops you jump through" club (which, by the sound of it, you do) that seems pretty straight-forwardly racist to me as well.
This isn't going to work as an objection either. Remember that drama around "race norming" from the NFL, that Hlynka pointed "hey, isn't it weird that they're doing 'norming' at all, when they have individual-level IQ-tests"? It doesn't matter if you believe it's only 3% of blacks that are an exception to the rule, if you're against "race norming" you're not racist. It similarly doesn't matter if you think it's the 97% that are the exception to the rule (I know this is non-sense mathematically speaking, just go with it rethorically), if you're for "rece norming", you're still racist.
Then what is it about? You’re talking in circles. I asked you what racism is, and you said it’s about believing in broad racial inferiority, except actually it’s not really about inferiority. Is it just about treating everyone as an atomized individual and consciously avoiding making probabilistic judgments about people given limited information?
Can you articulate why?
Your original comment said that noticing racial differences isn’t racist. Now you appear to be saying that actually it is.
I don’t think you’ve thought very deeply about this word, where it comes from, and why we should or shouldn’t use it.
If you want a bit more precision, I'm game (though I did give specific examples, so I'm not sure what more you want), but if you telling me I'm talking in circles, then it starts to sound a lot like the hair-splitting progressives do, with questions like "what is white".
Inferiority would be the most central and glaring example. There could also other cases not, strictly speaking, about inferiority (I recall someone here saying he wouldn't want to marry a black woman, because he wants to have his kids "look like him" or something), but would still fit my criterion. Instead of fighting over the less-central examples, I think it's better to take care of the more-central ones.
Because it's applying collective-level characterizations to the individual. The thing that you were, just a moment ago, claiming happens almost never.
Where? I said you're not racist regardless of your beliefs about the group, so you can notice all the differences you want. You can even act on them, as long as your collective-level belief does not override the individual-level evidence.
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What does "ignoring any individual characteristics that contradict that belief about the collective" mean? If I meet a few Jews with short noses but don't change my belief that Jews collectively have longer than average noses, am I being racist?
No. But if you think Jews are collectively conspiring globohomo on the world, and you meet a few Jews who have devoted their lives to opposing globohomo at every step, and consider them sus because they're Jewish, that would be pretty racist. Contra @Hoffmeister25, I think that's a relatively common occurrence.
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