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Small-Scale Question Sunday for September 8, 2024

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How is Jordan Peterson still standing without eating vegetables or fruit?

I’ve eaten essentially 0 fruits and vegetables for the last 4 or 5 years. They’re not a prerequisite for survival.

Do you eat raw spleen? Which raw organ do you eat for vitamin c

Do you eat raw spleen?

Never once.

Which raw organ do you eat for vitamin C

I don’t know. Certainly I don’t eat any raw organs. Is there any vitamin C in milk? I drink a fantastic quantity of milk.

Is there any vitamin C in milk?

No, zero vitamin c in milk. Alternatively: Orange juice? Lemonade or lemonade-y soft drinks?

Most vitamins are much more dense and bioavailable in animal products than vegetable products. Exception being Vit C, which possibly carnivores don't need. Also fiber.

Inuit have survived for thousands of years without fruit and vegetables, I think they get the necessary vitamins from fish oils/fats. We’re a very resilient species, survival on suboptimal-but-liveable diets has been very common.

There's the public version of Peterson who makes outlandish claims and pulls ridiculous stunts (no fruits or vegetables) for his fans. Then there's the private version of Peterson who does eat a healthy diet and keeps a messy room.

He's not looking great, and he's also under absurd amounts of outside stress, so I'm not sure there's a lot of evidence pointing either way.

Lots of people manage without eating fruits and vegetables. Vitamin c is the big issue, but Jordan Peterson presumably gets that from fresh steak. Fiber is the other problem but it’s manageable.

Eating a healthy meat-only diet isn’t that hard, though it is expensive. The key is the right fat/protein ratio and eating fresh meat in appropriate portion sizes.

As far as I understand it any vitamin C in raw meat is substantially reduced by cooking, regardless of the freshness of the meat. Maybe he eats extremely rare steak?

There is a hypothesis that vitamin c is only necessary for digesting/using carbs, and that is why inuit/carnivore diets seem to do fine without it.

Wiki says:

Vitamin C is obtained [among the Inuit] through sources such as reindeer liver, kelp, muktuk, and seal brain;

Can't be that hard. I managed it for a good four years of college.

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