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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 29, 2024

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Israel could have killed Haniyeh anywhere in the Middle East, yet deliberately chose to do so in Iran during the inauguration.

Is this true? My impression was that Hamas leaders were mostly staying in Qatar, where Israel would be very unwilling to try an assassination attempt.

Does Netanyahu actually want to drag the US into a much larger war with Iran?

I've seen various takes on Twitter pointing out how much Israel has escalated recently since Netanyahu's meeting with Harris. It seems very possible he realised/had confirmed that her administration would be much less friendly than Biden's, and that the time to try and draw the US in was now.

but why not assassinate in Qatar? qatar is sorta isolated in the Gulf - saudi/uae etc doesnt like qatar. Only thing i can think of that shields qatar is some nebulous relationship with USA, but even that doesnt feel very concrete

Because Qatar is accepted by the US as a diplomatic neutral ground for peace negotiations with various unsavory factions (including Hamas, the Taliban etc) on the proviso that all sides respect that no violence actually happens there.

In other words Qatar is the Continental Hotel of the Middle East.

but why not assassinate in Qatar?

Qatar was one of the first Arab nations to start normalizing thier relations with Isreal back in the 90s. Unlike those of Iran or Syria, Qatari diplomatic opinion actually carries some whieght with the Isreali government.

I've seen various takes on Twitter pointing out how much Israel has escalated recently since Netanyahu's meeting with Harris. It seems very possible he realised/had confirmed that her administration would be much less friendly than Biden's, and that the time to try and draw the US in was now.

But everyone expects Trump to be the next president, and he's very pro-Israel.

Harris seems to be polling quite significantly better than Biden. Nate Silver is giving her close to 50%. It could be Netanyahu felt the way the wind was starting to blow and felt that waiting until after the election would risk losing the chance to strike while the iron is hot, so to speak.

Question is how much of it is honeymoon v reality. Trump negatives are pretty baked in. Are Harris’ negatives? Dems were smart to wait until 100 days (or maybe even 50) to make her the nominee. The negatives might not be baked in by the time election comes around.

Another reason why what the Dems did was wrong.

The negatives will definitely show up, give it approximately two to three weeks until she has her first major accusation or oppo thing the GOP breaks (or possibly a verbal slip that goes viral), and about four to six weeks for people to start to pay attention to the vibe her speeches are giving. And at some point there will be a debate which will make an impact. And the state of the economy around late September/October will also play a big role. Trump's team mostly fumbled their first big chance to set the impressions, but they will have others. Chris LaCivita is a smart cookie, so they will eventually settle on a theme or line that is at least decent, but it's going to be at least a month before the GOP figures out some messaging discipline.

I don't expect we'll see the negatives. Harris will be run as "generic Democrat" and just slide into office, her policy positions barely even being mentioned in the media until after the election.

I'd say it's more of a coin toss, maybe slightly leaning Trump. That's what prediction markets indicate too.

Hedging bets, perhaps, or maybe wanting a repeat of the hostage crisis that got Reagan elected?

My impression was that Hamas leaders were mostly staying in Qatar, where Israel would be very unwilling to try an assassination attempt.

Your impression is correct. Haniyeh being in Iran presented an opportunity, since Iran is already an enemy state.

The time to try and draw the US into a war with Iran was decades ago. It strikes me as a little late now.

Today is still better than tomorrow. I have very low confidence that the US can really “win” in a war against Iran if winning is defined as occupying Tehran and installing a new regime. But they can totally break the country until Israel doesn’t have to worry about it just like how it doesn’t worry about Saddam or Syria anymore. Albeit at a very very high cost. To the US.

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