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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 8, 2024

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Wasn't it a registered republican that took the shot? There is a chance they wanted someone even further right.

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The man who took the shot was an MKUltra wind-up toy, who was 11 years old when Trump declared he was running for President and grew up in a media environment promoting total and absolute hatred of the man.

Oh here we go. The kid was a school shooter to a T. Shooting at trump for notoriety and disaffection rather than a school. Registered repub as well. Is trump a crisis actor?

You were mocking people for even talking about a potential Trump assassination about 2 months ago.

https://www.themotte.org/post/995/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/210703?context=8#context

Can't really believe you're inputting in good faith.

Yeah turns out it was a disaffected republican registered loser white kid, more like a school shooter than an assassination attempt. Unless you think school shooting victims have all been assassinated rather than murdered to take out some impotent rage at the world. Dude didn't even have a scope...pathetic and sad stuff from the SS and this kid. I'm glad he miffed it. But it wasn't a political assassination. There were fucking command snipers in the building he crawled up. Sad stuff.

Maybe dig into all the people who said this guy would be a left wing nut instead of a school shooter right wing dude obsessed with a youtube right gun channel, to the point of buying merch. I can almost feel themott's boogaloo contingent being massively disappointed.

I can see you went through your "enemies list" and looked to see if they thought there wouldn't be an attempt on trump so you could try to shame them. It only shames the accelerationist right wing as this was done by one of your own.

more like a school shooter than an assassination attempt. Unless you think school shooting victims have all been assassinated rather than murdered to take out some impotent rage at the world.

That is not the difference between murder and assassination. What matters is the profile of the target and the anticipated outcomes. Assassination attempts to accomplish something by targeting high-profile people.

Schoolchildren can't get assassinated, because they don't have the profile.

But it wasn't a political assassination.

It boggles the mind how you could say this, seriously. Of course it was a political assassination, the target was a politician. If it were a businessman, or inventor, or general, then maybe it would be an economic or military assassination, but it was Donald Fucking Trump, the highest profile politician in the world.

Schoolchildren can't get assassinated, because they don't have the profile.

Unless your whole world at that point is limited to schoolchildren; their importance simply expands to fill the void that should have been filled by other things. Same dynamic in workplace violence too, I suspect.

You're getting bogged down in semantics. You know what my point is, that this was a school shooter style kid who shot at trump instead of a classroom of kids, for the same reasons.

"They were definitely the type, and they did, make threats to shoot up our school," he said.

Although he and other classmates suspected Crooks himself was behind a threat, he said he had no firm proof. But after the threat came in, the future would-be >assassin didn't return to school for a few days.

Kid just needed to be better looking or not a weirdo and get laid. C’est la vie

I can see you went through your "enemies list" and looked to see if they thought there wouldn't be an attempt on trump so you could try to shame them. It only shames the accelerationist right wing as this was done by one of your own.

Nah, I just went through the responses to the comment @Recursive_Enlightenment directly linked up above and noticed there were some people expressing clear opinions about the likelihood of someone trying to off Trump and wanted to see how this updated any priors.

I also saw yours there, and its just ironical that your position is such that you can attack people for speculating that someone might take a shot at Trump, AND dismiss the event when someone takes a shot at Trump.

For what it is also worth, my comment was specifically pointing out that it would likely be some irrational actor with no real agenda:

unless the outcome you want is literally "X politician is dead" then no rational person would carry out such an assassination in hopes of achieving their end goals.

So my position isn't shifting much from the revelations thus far.

Even now it isn't clear if this guy wanted any other outcome than a dead Trump, so I'm not going to speculate further.

Considering @Recursive_Enlightenment's comment was regarding a conservative politician implying that the shooter would be a politically motivated leftist (hence picking an even more unpalatable VP to replace trump) As so many here often say, my thoughts on the matter were 'directionally correct', and so were yours, school shooter vibes, not deep state stochastic terrorist political assassin. Even a dead trump might have been ancillary to his true aim of acting out, suicide by cop, showing his anger at his own impotence, making a mark etc...

If we're not here for idle speculation on every topic under the sun, then what are we here for?

There's a chance, but it's definitely not clear. He also supposedly donated to ActBlue. So his registration could have been for tactical voting purposes, given that Pennsylvania is a closed primary state.

If you truly hated Trump and lived in Pennsylvania you registered as a Republican so you could vote against him in the primary. You had to register as a Republican to vote in the primary.