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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 8, 2024

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First of all, is he dead? That's the first ten things that matter. Given that he lives through the day and recovers from any injuries...

Speculation can immediately begin, whodunnit?

I am partial to deep state explanations, because I think Biden's collapse post debate and uncertainty of the Democrat nominee has forced someone's hand.

Of course the most likely is that we'll find out nothing of the sort.

We found out.

I'm thinking right wing schizo. Can't imagine the deep state would want to make a martyr of Trump (or in this case ensure his victory), but of course that's unfalsifiable anyway.

Not dead, from the video posted by the NY Post he appears to have been hit twice from an oblique angle, one round hitting his shoulder the other grazing his ear. Walked off the stage under his own power while waving to the crowd.

Edit: upon repeated viewing i think the woman wearing the red maga tank-top and cabela's hat behind trump probably got hit which would put the angle of the shot (and therefore the shooter) more to trump's front right.

That's correct, according to Xitter. There is an interview with a redheaded bearded man with a MAGA visor who says he saw the shooter and his rifle and alerted police minutes before the shooting, and tried to point him out to Secret Service for several minutes as well. The shooter was prone and crawling on a rooftop nearly 90 degrees to the right of Trump.

The interview you reference can be found in two parts here and here

Delays getting hustled off the stage to yell "fight - fight".

Maybe he'll be finally motivated to do something about the antifa and their solid connections to media and seeming impunity..

Maybe he'll be finally motivated to do something about the antifa and their solid connections to media and seeming impunity..

This implies an ability to "do something" about antifa. Like what, exactly?

Not dead. They clipped his ear though. 3 inches inches to the right and his head would have popped on live tv. Unreal. He seriously is a man of destiny.

Money shot (excuse the term):

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Not dead, looked like if it hit him it grazed his ear.

Why would this be deep state? I can’t see how this will do anything except make him a more sympathetic figure.

Not if they'd succeeded. But it was probably a random crazy, and my second choice would be a random crazy egged on by the FBI -- not in order to kill Trump, but because the FBI likes to do stuff like that (e.g. Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot, "draw Mohammed" shooter).

It seems way, way too incompetent. If it was deep state he'd have been given an 'ghost gun' AR-15 modified for full auto (classical boogeynman gun for ATF, and trained to use it.)

Wondering how he even got in there with a gun tho.

Wondering how he even got in there with a gun tho.

Unironically, deep state. The deceased shooter was a wind up toy and somebody on the inside influenced the security.

You know, the JFK playbook.

This TBH

Climbed a nearby building: https://www.themotte.org/post/1070/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/229040

And incompetent? Guy just drew blood from outside the Secret Service cordon. The wind is the only thing that saved President Trump.

There's 2 bystanders saying they tried to get police attention for minutes er: the guy on the roof.

People asking pointed question as in: how come the rooftop, an obvious and apparently best (closest) spot wasn't secured.

there's Alex Jones ranting this was definitely deep state trying to kill Trump. I'm not convinced yet, but his people have gone on record saying they asked to beef up his Secret Service protection, that was denied, the suspicous incompetence now)..

Are you suggesting that whoever shot him intended for him to live? I'm assuming the deep state wants him dead, but of course nobody knows anything.