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Out-and-out homophobia/sexually-motivated violence tends to not get too much coverage in specific incidents since it's perpetrated by certain cultures that are otherwise lionized by progressive actions. 'There were 50 Trans murders this year' looks shocking and something to be addressed, whilst '95% of those were ladyboy prostitutes running afoul of pimps and gay-panic Johns' is something that'll keep individual incidents off the headlines
Aren't Trans- of both kinds- murdered at lower rates than the general population, nevermind the severely mentally ill streetwalker whose underclass clients think themselves the victim of false advertising population(which is statistically what most of these murders are- and having been around underclass males, they a) are willing to frequent prostitutes and b) would react with violence to the revelation of a prostitute they'd picked up having male parts).
In the west, trans people are murdered at a lower rate than cis males.
In 2022 from a population of 1.6 million trans people in the US, there were 41 murders, broken down into 37 trans women and 4 trans men - 2.56 murders/100k of population.
In 2022 (the last year for which data on the victims' sex are known), there were 12,747 male murder victims in the US, from a population of 166.6 million. If we assume that that figure includes the 37 murders in the paragraph above, that comes down to 12,710. That works out at 7.63 murders/100k of population.
Anyone who tells you there's an epidemic of violence against trans people in the US is misinformed or lying.
What about compared to cis women?
3,653 female murder victims in 2022, from a population of 168 million. If we assume that figure includes the four trans men mentioned in comment above, there were 3,649 cis female murder victims in 2022, working out at 2.17 murders/100k of population.
To summarize:
Or in the form of ranking in descending order of risk of murder:
I have little reason to doubt that the hysterical caterwauling about how trans people of colour** are more likely to be murdered than white trans people is empirically true. I assume that in the trans community, murder rates by race/ethnicity follow the same trends as in the general population, for much the same reasons.
*The report from the Williams Institute says that "Of the 1.3 million adults who identify as transgender, 38.5% (515,200) are transgender women, 35.9% (480,000) are transgender men, and 25.6% (341,800) reported they are gender nonconforming." - annoying that they can't just list sex somewhere to make my job easier. I assumed that the GNC people were fifty-fifty male and female (which is obviously an assumption on my part) and calculated the murder rates accordingly, under the assumption that the population of "trans women" includes all males who identify as trans or GNC. Thus, 37 murders from a population of 686,100 adult trans/GNC males = 5.39/100k.
**Excluding Asians, as these activists tend to do
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Haven't checked recently, but I've seen different figures - either similar, or less.
I suspect reports that it's substantially less than the average are underreporting, while reports that it's around the average are probably more accurate. I'd wager it's 2x the baseline or less. I don't believe the reports of a "trans genocide" in terms of literal murders. Arguing that prohibition of medical services constitutes a major psychological risk factor would be the more fruitful line of inquiry if someone were trying to put together a case.
This is the motte-and-bailey that is "trans genocide". They want us to think that the genocide is transphobes murdering trans people, and are able to point to a non-zero number of murders which fit that pattern. But the actual motte is that failing to give trans people everything they want is genociding them by driving them to suicide.
My impression was that the genocide claim is mostly based on the argument that not affirming trans people's gender is supposedly denying their existence, which in some way is equivalent to wanting them dead, or whatever.
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Last I checked these things counted as killing trans, kids or otherwise:
I am 100% sure I missed more examples of this absurdity, but there is no need to belabor the point.
Honestly after a certain point I get the sense that the trannies just want to turn the screws on the cis to put cis in their place. Trannies don't actually want to be weightlifters or cyclists save for the ego stokers, trannies just want to fuck women who can't say no. The visible threat is obviously AGP transwomen acting disingenuously, but the expansive language has captured a shitload of confused angry teen girls convinced their lives would be better if they were boys. Normie PMC bullied into supporting an extensive definition of trans mental health causes for the benefit of degenerate transwomen end up generating a corpus of stupid teenagers getting permanent damage to their bodies and psyches. More and more kids seem to be aware of this discrepancy and revealed preferences point to where the kids really are going - everyone is fucking instathots or smoothskinned gymchads, and no amount of stunning and brave laudatory praise on ugly fatties or short butches is actually giving egotistical fetishists the validation they demand.
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It was briefly mentioned in the 2020 democratic primaries that most trans murders are sex workers, then I believe it got memory holed when it was revealed the murderers were largely homophobic black clients. It was useful to highlight trans black sex workers being murdered, then the murderers turned out to not be white men and the news was buried.
I would gently posit that the murder rate for trans is somewhat obscured by the number of trans people being absolutely impossible to discern. Self ID and no accountability means this is a mutable category with depressed tomboys and cross dressing AGPs in the same category.
There are a statistically significant number of rap songs from the eighties and nineties which talk about hooking up with a girl who turns out to be a guy. This phenomenon was mentioned on Cracked back in the day.
Probably most famously in DMX's "Where the Hood at" which straight up talks about murdering gay and trans black men:
Last I heard, y'all niggas was havin' sex (uh) with the same sex (woo) I show no love (yeah) to homo thugs (nah) Empty out, reload, and throw more slugs (boom) How you gonna explain fuckin' a man? Even if we squash the beef, I ain't touchin' your hand (aight?) I don't fuck with chumps (yeah) For those that been to jail, that's the cat with the Kool-Aid on his lips and pumps (uh)
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Sure, but even if the trans murder rate was double what we currently believe it to be (i.e. for every trans person who got murdered and who was correctly identified as such by the police, there was one additional murder victim who was inaccurately characterised as cisgender), the trans murder rate would still be lower than the cis male murder rate. Check my maths.
Also, if a male person gets murdered and that person dressed in a conventionally male fashion, never sought treatment for gender dysphoria, never requested that anyone address them using a female name or pronouns, and gave no outward indication of being anything other than a cis man - I find it hard to understand how one could posit that such a murder was motivated by transphobia on the part of the perpetrator.
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Common Coulter’s Law W.
See also #StopAsianHate in the US or supposed disappearing indigenous women in Canada.
An occasional but recurring source of seethe and controversy in spaces like Reddit is to what extent Persons of Sex Work are in the right to deny their services to black men.
That was particularly farcical. It's a shame that most satirists in the US are left-wing:
https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/national-international/black-and-asian-americans-stand-together-against-hate-crimes/2780762/
"We should be struggling against the common enemy!"
"... The Judean People's Front?!"
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Most sex workers are actually somewhat racist and unpleasant because they tend to be bad with money and keep trying to squeeze regulars. Its quite common for escorts to state preferences openly, and it is unacceptable to normies that said preferences tend to be no blacks/arabs/indians, for varying reasons stemming largely from fraud and stealthing. European freelancers on backpage used to complain about those clients constantly, and then I think it got memory holed.
In the end normies really wish their chosen pets would all get along with each other, and can't be bothered to actually talk to blacks or muslims to see what they think of lgbt or women. Maintaining the fiction is the responsibility of reality, and denying the lived experience of sex workers is more acceptable than any notion of skin color being indicative of threat. We still don't see any liberal reckoning about Pulse nightclub or Rotherham, and at this point the aggressors know they have a ripe and defenseless population rich for the taking.
So there was this time a long time ago when I was sort of interested in Sam Harris’ podcast and kept checking it out. One time he had Bill Maher on as a guest rather predictably, who, to his credit, wasn’t holding back. One argument he made about liberal/centrist normies is that one reason why talking points on the threat of Islamism and other negative consequences of Muslim immigration don’t resonate with them at all is that usually the only Muslims the typical suburban middle-class liberal White woman ever interacts with are those two funny and exotic Arab guys at the office that she’s sympathetic to already. That’s the only point of reference she has. Needless to say, those two swarthy guys know the score and will make sure never to offend her pro-gay/trans sensibilities. (Also, we know that ‘multiculturalism’ to this White demographic doesn’t usually mean more than funny clothes, exotic restaurants and that one coffee shop your female coworkers will tell you about.)
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Cultural confusion can also be a factor. Remember a case in Australia where a Transwoman was assaulted by a Tinder hookup, but it turned out the Tinder hookup had only been in the country from his native Pakistan for a couple weeks and seemingly had no cultural awareness of Trans being a thing/how to pick up on it from the profile.
I don’t recall it off the top of my head, but such a case could also be described as lack of cultural antibodies or lack of genre savviness.
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