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Culture War Roundup for the week of January 15, 2024

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Man, I’ve read through this a couple times, and it’s just not parsing. Who’s the other user with OP’s software package?

Maybe you’re on to something regarding economic equitability. The transition to a service economy—or the rise of automation, or the Industrial Revolution, or—has obviously devalued men’s labor. But it’s done this by reducing the value of BRUTE STRENGTH, and I don’t see how else it could have been.

God created men, but Sam Colt made them equal.

What I don’t get, though, is how the state of nature was supposed to be “more objectively equitable.” Women couldn’t move cargo as easy as men. Now they can, because moving any meaningful amount means cranes and forklifts. Where’s the downside?

It’ll be the same story when technology makes it hard to tell, at a glance, who’s hot and who’s not. Instead of the early-Internet assumption that everyone was male, you’ll have to assume everyone is uglier than their pics and stupider than their curated posts. Man and woman alike.

This is why women-as-population want…

Going to have to disagree with you there. Both because I don’t see how it follows, and because it looks like quite a strawman. The mismatch between ideological goals and individual actions isn’t exactly novel to feminism.

Why did you even pick this fight, anyway?

Yeah, I haven’t figured that one out either.

Why did you even pick this fight, anyway?

Yeah, I haven’t figured that one out either.

(In reply to @ThisIsSin too) I thought I've been pretty open about having a lot of issues surrounding sex and blaming LGBT and Feminist activism for many of them. I hold lesbians who use dildos and strap-ons and want to get pregnant via IVF in particular disdain for much the same reason that they hold transwomen in disdain--their behavior is a mockery of my sex, and in particular is appropriating the very aspects of my sex (my penis and the sperm it emits) I despise the most while rejecting the rest, all to serve their selfish desires.

a lot

You'll have to excuse me for not participating in that first thread directly (which is why I found it weird you're throwing seemingly-unrelated grenades here); I've only had read-only time these days, and these comments take a lot to write.

appropriating the very aspects of my sex (my penis and the sperm it emits) I despise the most while rejecting the rest, all to serve their selfish desires.

Yeah, that's what women tell me when I whip out the Fleshlight and start using it while thinking about them; I'm appropriating what beauty they have while rejecting the notion I owe them respect for their wishes and desires. I'm not convinced that's all that different- but maybe that's just because I can't just produce a kid by sticking a donated, fertilized egg up my ass and waiting nine months.

Sure, growing a kid inside yourself absolutely is an intensely sexual thing (even ignoring that it's just an outright fetish for some people), but I'm not as convinced it's the main attraction for lesbians looking for anonymous donations especially because it kind of sucks after a certain point. Maybe there just aren't enough lesbians on the face of the earth to have even one (IVF) Lesbian Octomom?

What's the difference between wanting to engage in a sexual act with a member of the opposite sex and being sexually attracted to them?

I dunno, I've done this a few times (not with the opposite sex though, sadly) with people I've absolutely not been sexually attracted to. Maybe it's just "not being sufficiently repulsed", "I actually don't have a strong enough attachment to my body to be actively grossed out by this if a friend asks me to do this", "you mentioned you were attracted to me and didn't seem to be doing so well lately, so sure, I'll share a bed for the night", or a combination of the above. Or maybe that's just what I tell myself so I can continue to feel pure enough to share a bed with my dakimakura.

(which is why I found it weird you're throwing seemingly-unrelated grenades here) ... Yeah, that's what women tell me when I whip out the Fleshlight and start using it while thinking about them; I'm appropriating what beauty they have while rejecting the notion I owe them respect for their wishes and desires.

Had I not spent most of my life getting progressively more fucked up from the grenades they and their ideological allies have been chucking my way, I wouldn't be feeling the need to lob a few back now.

Sure, growing a kid inside yourself absolutely is an intensely sexual thing (even ignoring that it's just an outright fetish for some people), but I'm not as convinced it's the main attraction for lesbians looking for anonymous donations especially because it kind of sucks after a certain point. Maybe there just aren't enough lesbians on the face of the earth to have even one (IVF) Lesbian Octomom?

The issue is pregnancy (and motherhood more generally) is also an intensely female thing. They see straight women bonding over it and feel left out. They cannot accept that not having sex with men could deny them access to such an important aspect of womanhood.