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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 4, 2023

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As an European coming from the outside, I had no idea how much power is in the hands of Jewish and pro-Zionist donors in the matters of american academia. And, reasoning about it, I think that for European-Americans it should be a clear bell of alarm; the Jewish donors will tolerate whatever anti-European, child mauling or intersectional feminism, but will never falter at Jewish interests.

Jews basically got it declared that talking about Jewish success is antisemitic.

I’ll note Jewish success as an acknowledgement of their success but it’s also done by some right wing antisemitism.

They get 40% of Nobels, at one point 30-40% of Ivy league spots (now lower due to affirmative action), I would guess 25-30% of US billionaires.

Their success is suppressed in the media but when things like this happen they definitely have the ability to hit back.

Jews basically got it declared that talking about Jewish success is antisemitic.

I’ll note Jewish success as an acknowledgement of their success but it’s also done by some right wing antisemitism.

They get 40% of Nobels, at one point 30-40% of Ivy league spots (now lower due to affirmative action), I would guess 25-30% of US billionaires.

Yet another consequence of the western belief in equality. If your society was set up in such a way that accepting that certain groups are better than others was completely mundane and unremarkable Jews wouldn't need to pull levers so that talking about Jewish successes became antisemitic. They only do that because they have correctly reasoned that in the modern western world people noticing their disproportionate success rate in society would lead to them becoming disfavoured compared to other groups, which is something nobody wants.

They only do that because they have correctly reasoned that in the modern western world people noticing their disproportionate success rate in society would lead to them becoming disfavoured compared to other groups, which is something nobody wants.

Another factor that I've heard and think is probably somewhat accurate is that they also want to avoid any pressure to feel a sense of noblesse oblige towards poorer whites.

You should see how much income tax they pay on those nobel prizes...

I don’t think the desire to suppress Jewish success is coming from modern wokism. I think it’s a legitimate fear that when you are 2-3% of population but 30-40% of elites it leaves you extremely exposed to becoming a scapegoat if something bad happens. I believe that is sort of what happened after WW1 Germany. Jews had a lot of people in elite positions in Germany so when they lost WW1 it was easy to pin the loss on them.

Jews had a lot of people in elite positions in Germany so when they lost WW1 it was easy to pin the loss on them.

Yeah, but the people who lost the war were Ludendorff and Hindenburg, Prussian Junkers both.

The real problem was the attempted communist revolutions in Bavaria and elsewhere, where you had massive Jewish representation amongst their leaders: Ernst Toller, Eugene Levine, Luxembourg and so on.

Yeah, but the people who lost the war were Ludendorff and Hindenburg, Prussian Junkers both.

That wasn't how a lot of Germans saw it at the time. The noble German army had been "stabbed in the back" by the elites.

Yes, the sprint to Paris through Belgium failed and lead to an extended trench war. Big L on the German high command.

But no one on planet earth could have guessed that America would get involved with the war. The Balfour Declaration was very openly made in response to the zionist promise that they'd bring America in to win the war. Who could been blamed for not seeing that coming?

This makes zero sense. By the time of the balfour declaration, the US had already declared war.

But no one on planet earth could have guessed that America would get involved with the war.

Everyone, first of all the germans, predicted it.

The nature of submarine warfare meant that attacks often came without warning, giving the crews of the merchant ships little hope of survival.[100][101] The United States launched a protest, and Germany changed its rules of engagement. After the sinking of the passenger ship RMS Lusitania in 1915, Germany promised not to target passenger liners, while Britain armed its merchant ships, placing them beyond the protection of the "cruiser rules", which demanded warning and movement of crews to "a place of safety" (a standard that lifeboats did not meet).

By January 1917, however, Field Marshal Paul von Hindenburg and General Erich Ludendorff decided that an unrestricted submarine blockade was the only way to achieve a decisive victory. They demanded that Kaiser Wilhelm order unrestricted submarine warfare be resumed. Germany knew this decision meant war with the United States, but they gambled that they could win before America's potential strength could be mobilized.[13] However, they overestimated how many ships they could sink and thus the extent Britain would be weakened. Finally, they did not foresee that convoys could and would be used to defeat their efforts. They believed that the United States was so weak militarily that it could not be a factor on the Western Front for more than a year. The civilian government in Berlin objected, but the Kaiser sided with his military.[14]

The Balfour Declaration was very openly made in response to the zionist promise that they'd bring America in to win the war

This makes zero sense. By the time of the balfour declaration, the US had already declared war.

A: If you get the US involved we will make the balfour declaration

B: Okay, we will get the US involved.

US gets involved

A: We make the balfour declaration

What about this makes zero sense?

Promises precede actions. The balfour declaration is a promise - supposedly, the jews would give their own promise (to get the US into the war) in exchange. What kind of moron acts first and is satisfied with a promise in exchange?

This is all conspiratorial nonsense anyway, the causes were well understood by the participants. Anything involving a jew is presented as causal on zero evidence. Actually, there were jews who were far more involved with the true causes, somewhere else in the story: in the german civilian government, who tried to avoid war with the US. They would later be blamed for stabbing germany in the back with this kind of 'traitorous' behaviour. They really are consistently perfidious, no matter what they do. For a people as all-powerful as them, the prime movers of history, the original cause of everything, they seem to be thwarted and condemned at every turn, forced to use subterfuge and misidirection in all of their wildly contradictory dealings.

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This has been the biggest complaint albeit some donors said something to the effective of “I failed when I was silent when woke wasn’t hitting my group.” Question will be whether they put their money where their mouth is today

"First they came for the _____, but I was not _____, so I stayed silent."

"I never thought the leopard would eat my face!"

"Do not call up that which you can not put down."

Nothing new under the sun....

Like who? Whom dost thou quote?

Update — Ackman’s open letter re firing of Gay specifically targets DEI and notes that it discriminates against, inter alia, straight white males.

My recollection which I will try to dig up is one of the Apollo founders

Question will be whether they put their money where their mouth is today

My money is firmly on "some will, some won't, but plenty of woke organizations will just refuse to stop calling for genocide so lots of these donors will continue to take a more anti-woke track, because after all these are mostly normie libs not ultraprogressives".

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