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Wait, I thought the refrain from the far right was the Jews were the ones controlling the dark skins to go and pillage white lands instead of the other way around?
Nobody cares about Jewish approval in progressive circles. You demonstrate your credentials there by having the darkest person you can find certify that you are One Of The Good Ones. The far-right believes Jews manipulate immigration policy to marginalize white people and force multiculturalism so that the resulting societies will be too disunited and incoherent to form a new Reich, and while this is true in extremely broad strokes (the truth is probably closer to what Jamie Kirchick said about supporting mass immigration because of the belief that diverse societies will be more tolerant to religious minorities like Jews), progressive societies nearly everywhere in the world revolve around this kind of racial fetishism and hierarchy, with or without Jewish input. Its purest expression is the ubiquitous negrolatry of America and the UK, but in a pinch any dark-skinned group will suffice.
It beggars belief that this is a real word.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/negrolatry
https://www.oed.com/dictionary/negrolatry_n
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LMAO. I am adding this word to my vocabulary. Just need to make sure I never utter it in polite company.
I’ve heard the more (if only slightly more) polite word “Afrolatry” substituted when the speaker wants to be a bit less spicy. “Negrolatry” is certainly my go-to, though. That or the even more incisive “autonegrophilia”, in which white progressives desperately wish to be culturally black or to be perceived as culturally black.
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