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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 19, 2023

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I mean, there is a pretty obvious principled line between adult homosexuality and pederasty. I'll give you a hint - it's the same one straight people use.

What do you think that principled line is?

But gays do not.

I do.

Then you appear to be an outlier. Because performing stripteases in front of 9 year olds, public BDSM parades, and having secret conversations with children about sex that parents cant know about are core tenants of the movement as a whole right now.

You are doing nothing but weakmanning and booing your outgroup here, and if you are going to double down on how "the gays" are all (or 99%) groomers and pedarasts, you really need to bring some evidence, not just your feels.

I just warned you to stop this kind of low effort snarling. So take three days off to chill out.

There's not infrequent messaging warning young women and girls about predatory pederasts. You can find frequent discussions by women and girls recounting when they first felt the leers of men as the objects of male sexual desire. That many will use the vocabulary of victimization I think is unhelpful.

Is there still messaging directed at boys and young men warning of the homosexual pederast? Do men and boys still have male only spaces where they're allowed to exclude homosexuals to have the frank discussions necessary to convey the danger posed?

I don't think there was ever a lot of messaging directed at boys and young men warning of the dangers of pederasty, now or in the past. In addition, I don't think the atmosphere of shame and silence around homosexuality in the past actually empowered people to resist pederasty. If anything, it gave cover to pederasts, who preyed freely on homosexual teenagers and young men, knowing that society did not see them as worthy of protection. I think things have actually gotten better - the shaming and ostracization of notorious pederasts like Kevin Spacey and Bryan Singer indicates that things are moving in the right direction.

I'm not sure what purpose excluding homosexuals would serve in that regard. Homosexual teenagers are more at risk than anyone from predation. As well as that, homosexuality is different from biological sex in that it is not readily identifiable. What are you going to do, start testing kids for homosexuality so you can start excluding them from a young age?

I mean, excluding homosexuals from certain positions obviously relies on self regulation- that much is true- but messaging regarding the dangers of homosexual predation was very frequent in times past, and plenty of organizations allowed it to inform their thinking in some way.

Obviously the Boy Scouts didn’t manage to prevent homosexual pederasts from serving as scoutmasters, but the idea that it wasn’t their intention to do so seems facially absurd.

Have you seen "Boys Beware"? The stereotype of the sinister predatory homosexual was for a time the only depiction of male homosexuals in popular media.

I was more concerned with the exclusion of adult homosexuals from spaces traditionally for men and boys.

ephebophile would be more accurate in the heterosexual context, though I've seen pederast used as a synonym

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