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Ummm, I've had sex wearing and not wearing a condom and it's noticeably different. Sex with a condom on is still great and guys who pressure women by claiming it's awful are shitty but no, it's definitely not identical.
Yeah so we're in agreement, it's not actually about fertility it's about the belief that transness is fake.
Sex with a condom is kind of shit though. Not really worth it unless you're a horny teenager.
I agree that sex without a condom is better, but let's not go into absurd hyperbole territory here. Sex with a condom is still really good and well worth it.
I genuinely disagree. Sex with a condom isn't really worth outside of the first sexual encounters with someone (and even then it's highly frustrating) or when you're a teenager.
I feel like the expression of eating candy with the wrapper on is fairly accurate. There is some enjoyment to be had but unless I'm really starving I'm not going to bother.
When you say "it's not worth it", I take it to mean that you would rather not have sex at all than have sex with a condom on. There's no accounting for taste and all, but I can't really understand why you would say that. Having sex with a condom is definitely lesser, but I'd much rather have a lesser pleasure than none at all (which is the alternative here).
There's a lot of ways to get off with (or without) a partner that aren't PIV.
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There are other things to do than having sex and other people you can pursue having sex with.
Well yes to the first at least. I'm married, so the latter is not the case. But even granting that sex isn't the only pleasure in life, it is a big one and I can't really see writing it off like that if you happen to have a partner who (for whatever reason) wants to use condoms.
I would not marry someone that wants to use condoms.
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Maybe his partner just lies there yawning and checking her phone, and so with a condom on sex is like doing push ups to masturbate.
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I wonder if circumcision has to do something with the difference in opinions here.
I'm circumcised. I found sex with condoms to be particularly uninspiring. Not an issue for my wife and I now.
When I was single, there were occasions I'd give it a miss rather than use condoms. For me it was like ersatz intimacy.
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For what it's worth I'm uncircumcised.
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It's one of those things where it depends on which way you look at it. From the perspective of a person who is not having sex, sex with a condom is fantastic and totally worth it. But from the perspective of someone who regularly has sex without a condom on, boy is it a disappointment.
On a related note, it's not just guys who prefer condomless sex, every woman I have dated has been eager to do away with them as quickly as possible too. I don't think it's purely about the physical sensation in either case, the feeling of connection and being one with another person is just so much stronger without a condom in the way.
Yep that has definitely been the case in my experience. My wife has said she enjoys sex more without a condom, the only reason we ever used them was for contraceptive reasons (it was her preferred method and I was kind of squeamish about complications from a vasectomy). My wife wound up having to get a hysterectomy (for unrelated health reasons), which has definitely had great fringe benefits for both of us even if that wasn't the goal.
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