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Culture War Roundup for the week of April 14, 2025

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You realize literally in the last 24 hours I've been accused of giving passes to "my side" by both leftists and rightists?

Do tell me, what is "my side"?

People are allowed to make arguments you dislike, even poor arguments.

My understanding is that the mod team has a lot of overlap with folks from rDrama. The Motte's underlying code is a fork of rDrama's.

Which "side" the mod team is on is whatever side that rDrama is on, which is less about left or right and more about a cultural aesthetic. Gay/Trans/Furry PC-Gamer Master-Race rise up. A metastasization of whatever was going on with Hot Topic in the late 00s.

A key feature of this culture is antipathy towards "normies" and anyone else who isn’t in on the joke. Both the extant left and right have factions within them that are at war with the "default" culturally christian, 2.5 kids and a dog view of middle America and it is with those factions that the culture of rDrama (and by extension theMotte) sides. The side that thinks that TracingWoodgrains trolling LibsOfTikTok was just chef's kiss is the side that the moderators of theMotte are on.

Gay/Trans/Furry PC-Gamer Master-Race rise up.

Hey, you know what would really stick it to the gay trans furry PC master Hot Topic race? You completing your argument.

Hoff said something to the effect of "here are some assumptions based on observed characteristics that regular people make all the time, explain why racial ones are uniquely different" like three days ago and you've done everything in the world except answer him ever since.

My understanding is that the mod team has a lot of overlap with folks from rDrama. The Motte's underlying code is a fork of rDrama's.

I am certainly not an /r/drama type. I am an actual Christian, not merely a cultural one, and I match the rest of your description on middle America pretty well. I do not think that Trace trolling LibsofTikTok was peak comedy; I think the prank itself was fair enough, but all the conclusions I've seen drawn from it were bogus, and I continue to believe that LibsofTikTok serves a necessary function.

We actually have rules for commenting here. We actually do attempt to enforce these rules, and to do so fairly. @Amadan is in fact routinely accused of unfair moderation to advance his preferred side, and these accusations do in fact come from all sides. I have seen the behind-the-scenes deliberation, and there was no attempt underway to shape the discourse here in favor of any particular faction.

Your understanding is comically misinformed.

If "misinformation" leads to accurate predictions is it really "mis" information?

Your predictions have yet to be accurate. So yes, you're just wrong and misinformed. This isn't the first time you've said some pretty ridiculous and demonstrably far from reality things about the mod team. Wherever you are getting your information, you should consider updating.

My understanding is that the mod team has a lot of overlap with folks from rDrama. The Motte's underlying code is a fork of rDrama's.

How does one follow from the other? How do people come up with these ideas about the mods?

They are not intended to follow from eachother, they are two independent statements of fact intended to corroborate the claim made in the subsequent paragraph.

The one about mod overlap with /r/drama seems to be comoelrely unsubstantiated, so not really a statement of fact, and the one about the codebase does not corroborate anything that you've written.

ZorbaTHut and TracingWoodgrains were(are?) both long time dramanauts and I am reasonably confident that there are at least two others. That's a minimum of two, possibly as many as four or more, out of a population of ten admins. Greater than 20% is a "significant percentage" if you ask me.

CCing @SteveAgain

Ah yes, the admin who doesn't get involved with the place other than to keep it running, and the "moderator" with literally the fewest mod actions outside of the bot that autoposts the weekly threads, who left in a huff telling us how he doesn't like us anymore. Such massive overlap.

I'm pretty sure there are no dramanauts on the mod team. There's no insane word replacing filters and nobody gets called sweetie in ban notices

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