Be advised: this thread is not for serious in-depth discussion of weighty topics (we have a link for that), this thread is not for anything Culture War related. This thread is for Fun. You got jokes? Share 'em. You got silly questions? Ask 'em.
- 157
- 2
What is this place?
This website is a place for people who want to move past shady thinking and test their ideas in a
court of people who don't all share the same biases. Our goal is to
optimize for light, not heat; this is a group effort, and all commentators are asked to do their part.
The weekly Culture War threads host the most
controversial topics and are the most visible aspect of The Motte. However, many other topics are
appropriate here. We encourage people to post anything related to science, politics, or philosophy;
if in doubt, post!
Check out The Vault for an archive of old quality posts.
You are encouraged to crosspost these elsewhere.
Why are you called The Motte?
A motte is a stone keep on a raised earthwork common in early medieval fortifications. More pertinently,
it's an element in a rhetorical move called a "Motte-and-Bailey",
originally identified by
philosopher Nicholas Shackel. It describes the tendency in discourse for people to move from a controversial
but high value claim to a defensible but less exciting one upon any resistance to the former. He likens
this to the medieval fortification, where a desirable land (the bailey) is abandoned when in danger for
the more easily defended motte. In Shackel's words, "The Motte represents the defensible but undesired
propositions to which one retreats when hard pressed."
On The Motte, always attempt to remain inside your defensible territory, even if you are not being pressed.
New post guidelines
If you're posting something that isn't related to the culture war, we encourage you to post a thread for it.
A submission statement is highly appreciated, but isn't necessary for text posts or links to largely-text posts
such as blogs or news articles; if we're unsure of the value of your post, we might remove it until you add a
submission statement. A submission statement is required for non-text sources (videos, podcasts, images).
Culture war posts go in the culture war thread; all links must either include a submission statement or
significant commentary. Bare links without those will be removed.
If in doubt, please post it!
Rules
- Courtesy
- Content
- Engagement
- When disagreeing with someone, state your objections explicitly.
- Proactively provide evidence in proportion to how partisan and inflammatory your claim might be.
- Accept temporary bans as a time-out, and don't attempt to rejoin the conversation until it's lifted.
- Don't attempt to build consensus or enforce ideological conformity.
- Write like everyone is reading and you want them to be included in the discussion.
- The Wildcard Rule
- The Metarule
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Notes -
My wife is pregnant so I was searching for a non alcoholic red wine. Apparently they are very difficult to make, or at least make in a way that a wine company will attach their name to it. Got a sparkling rose instead, guess we will see how that tastes.
Miguel Torres makes excellent non alcoholic Rosé and Sauvignon Blanc, they’ve been making it for like twenty years
I got this bottle:
https://store.wolffer.com/product/Spring-in-a-Bottle
We both liked it.
That looks delightful. German N.A. bubbly from a quality region like mosel seems like a winning combo.
This was the wine I was referring to earlier.
More options
Context Copy link
More options
Context Copy link
More options
Context Copy link
Congratulations on the pregnancy! I hope things proceed smoothly for the two and soon to be three of you.
More options
Context Copy link
You'll probably be better off with non-alcoholic beer.
This is my favourite non-alcoholic beer.
More options
Context Copy link
This one is easily the best N.A. beer in the world.
More options
Context Copy link
More options
Context Copy link
My kids really like sparkling red grape juice for things like New Years' celebrations.
My favorite mocktail is a virgin Moscow Mule - the ginger and acid leave it with enough "bite" even without vodka.
I've only tried a non-alcoholic red wine once, though, and it was lousy, so I can't help directly, sorry.
Congratulations and good luck on the pregnancy!
More options
Context Copy link
I am not sure how good they are given the regulations around them. My family did get some bottles of non-alcoholic sparkling wine, not sure if I can suggest that in good faith to someone pregnant, for everyone else, it's fucking fantastic.
I wish you guys luck with the pregnancy!
More options
Context Copy link
I recommend a shrub, kombucha on tap, or de-alchoholed mimosa.
More options
Context Copy link
Alcohol free wine is uniquely bad. Alcohol free herbal “liquor” is better, alcohol free beer still better.
It’s because the most economical ways of making non alcoholic wine end up cooking off the aromatics, which make up the majority of the flavor of wine.
There’s high fidelity ways of doing it but they are mega capital intensive
More options
Context Copy link
More options
Context Copy link
More options
Context Copy link