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My guess is that many of them go into professions with higher pay but lower status, skilled trades, HVAC, property and construction (all roles), B2B sales, corporate roles at medium to large companies that aren’t Fortune 500s with woke hiring programs, many go into tech.
A guy who has a 1500+ and doesn't get into Yale doesn't go into trades, he goes to U of either in his own state or with the state adjacent to his waiving out of state tuition. I know, I am such a person. I got rejected by Ivies and went on full ride to an out of state, state school. Then I got a full ride to a different law school.
I am in an industry without many H1Bs, but people a half or quarter std below me are exactly the sort of people the recent H1B kerfuffle was about. Maybe they merely got a half scholarship to engineering school and merely graduated with a 3.7 instead of a full ride and 3.9. Those Americans are perfectly capable of doing the job. I worked with them on many projects.
Not that such kids can't go into HVAC. But that is kinda silly long term. Unless you figure out how to run a business, HVAC blows out your back at 55 almost guaranteed. Then where are you?
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Trades pay gets massively exaggerated- we get teacher money for the most part, except the guys who work 100 hour weeks.
That being said, teachers definitely make a living wage, and ‘living wage, plus dating opportunities with dumber than you women, plus the ability to live in a shitty neighborhood with no problems’ is an appealing pitch for more men than women by a long shot.
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Tradesmen can live in a much lower rent neighborhood before for similar levels of crime concern than white collar workers making equivalent money.
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An artifact of the audience, to live in a clean well ordered suburb in a southern or midwestern city is considered "shitty" by most of of the users here because it is naturally "lower status" than living in a condo in New York or LA. That the latter is far more likely encounter litteral shit/feces on the sidewalk than the former is just a fun bit of irony.
The difference between a "shitty" nieghborhood, and a shit nieghborhood.
I recall reading the observation on this forum and on Reddit that such suburban living combines all the disadvantages of urban and rural living. Maybe that’s what these users have in mind? The lack of walkable neighborhoods and third places, your neighbors being boorish and boring etc?
This is anti-rural slander / urbanist propaganda.
Our neighborhood is walkable, there's not really anywhere to walk to except nature trails and neighbors houses. There is a pub and two churches that many would consider their third places.
Wildlife is great too. https://imgur.com/a/bTanUVX
What about supermarkets? Gyms? Barbers?
What about them? I don't typically think of those as third places.
Oh, I thought you meant that only the church and pub are in walking distance, I didn't realize you restricted yourself to third places.
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Yes, that's what the opposite of "walkable" means in a practical sense.
Only in your urban centered view.
The natural amenities we have are walkable your bias for the constructed environment over the natural environment doesn't make nature un-walkable.
What you're describing is density which produces your version of walkable.
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