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PaperclipPerfector  3mo ago (text post)   2364 thread views

Small-Scale Question Sunday for December 15, 2024

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What's the deal with the drones?

Are there even any drones?

I have done zero seconds of research on this but my money is on mass hysteria / hallucination event

Given how unconcerned the US government is, I think it's clear that that belong to some branch of the US government.

What drones? Can you be more specific in top-level post? At least link some useful summary?

What's the deal with the drones?

Is about war in Ukraine or what?

Are there even any drones?

Probably no then. Unless it is some really big-brain take.

https://www.fox29.com/news/drone-mothership-claim-new-info-about-irans-drone-activity

Based on this we can say that New Jersey Congressman lied (or repeated lies/confused babbling) about supposed Iranian droneship of the coast of USA.

Silly, but still below old classics like risk of island tipping over.

Also, he may have seen some drones. Or planes. Or stars. Or street lamps. Or something else.

Why this would be of interest to anyone?

UFO people claims at least have some (usually lame, but still) backstory with all this alien stuff.

I’ve heard a few theories:

-Ayylmao invasion fleet. This one doesn’t have too much traction since most of the drones seem to be pretty conventional and don’t exhibit any of the physics breaking movements or properties of other UAP encounters like the 2014 navy sighting.

-Government Nuke sniffers. This theory came from an engineer on tiktok. He thinks the drones could be looking for the radiation signature of a nuclear device that was smuggled into the United States. This might explain why the federal government seems so tight lipped about it, so as not to create panic.

-Foreign adversary. The drones belong to Russia/Iran/China and are being launched from a submarine carrier off the coast of New Jersey for reconnaissance or to intentionally spread fear

-Military Test: The drones are US military and need to be tested for urban operations, which is why they’re in New Jersey and not somewhere in the Nevada desert.

It seems like most of them are just regular planes, in a region with multiple large commercial airports and right on the route to several others?

Completely false. Some of them are stars.

Key word being “most of them”. There are a non insignificant number of very strange things that people are observing.

They're pretty clearly just regular drone exercises by the American intelligence corps. Not entirely sure what the purpose of the operations are.

It is a useful distraction from other things that would likely be in the overton window, though.

I know this is a rat forum, but I’m still surprised people are so incredulous about non-conventional explanations. I’m not necessarily suggesting that these are extraterrestrials, but it seems like there are a mix of three categories of things being seen:

  1. Misidentified fixed wing aircraft/helicopters and lens flares.
  2. These large drones with novel characteristics
  3. Other orbs, lights, or unexplained things.

You seem quite certain about what these things are. I’m going to guess you haven’t looked at it too closely are are either repeating others analysis or just playing the adds and speculating a likely explainstion.

It seems to me that the government/media/expert class have no problem either outright lying or are happy to just be flat out wrong.

It would be more interesting to talk about what’s new about this latest episode - because there are some novel aspects to it.

I’m still surprised people are so incredulous about non-conventional explanations

Because when I was younger and had more time I looked into several such cases and it turned out that people advancing non-conventional explanations were some combination of lying, stupid, confused, on hallucinogens, shitposting, unable to distinguish UFO from Milky Way or Sirius and so on.

Give me some serious proof or even hint of proof.

because there are some novel aspects to it

Then clearly list them if you want people to bother.

After spending few times on investigating UFO claims and discovering that it was waste of time induced by liars/incompetent/trolls I am not inclined to waste even more time, I prefer it to waste on something novel. It makes as much sense to investigate this as follow up on "You have received a donation of Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars ($500,000) from" emails.

In fact, following on scam emails likely has greater payoff. Some people managed to scam scammers or at least waste their time.

Please, do do a full write-up on why they are not, in fact, intelligence ops, and try and change my mind.

I'd much rather be reading about the netanyahu trials and discussing israeli due process, however.

You are welcome to do a big write up. I'm interested but too feverish right now to do original research.

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